Very first steps! Haven't even turned the thing on yet.

  1. PaulaT

    PaulaT Member

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    Hi There!
    First post!
    I've started getting the gear together to start learning to weld.
    So far i have bought a very nice looking Uptime Mig welder https://www.uptimewelding.co.uk/upt...-160-amp-igbt-with-torch-and-accessories.html
    A mask and gloves.
    I've read the setting up gas section on here and found it very helpful. I am going to get some Flux core wire to start with too, but i would also like to get some gas as i hear it can make things a little better/easier.
    If I buy one of the disposable gas bottles do i need a convertor to connect it to a regulator like the one in the tutorial? https://www.mig-welding.co.uk/wiki/Setting_up_the_gas
    Also how do i get it from the regulator to the welder? Is it just a push on plastic pipe?
    My last newby question for now is. Should the tip size (eg 0.8mm) be the same as wire size and roller size?
    So if i use 0.8mm wire the roller and tip should be 0.8mm? Sounds obvious but i thought i better ask!?
    Thanks in advance.
    Paula
     
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  2. Pete.

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    Welcome Paula,

    The first thing to think about when choosing gas or gasless wire is that the polarity is reversed for each. Gas shielded wire has the -ve to the earth clamp and +ve to the torch. Gasless wire you have the -ve to the torch and the +ve to the clamp. Check the manual to make sure this is possible for your machine.
     
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  3. gaz1

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    please dont buy the disposable bottles for 30.00 for 3 they only last minutes per each can if you can get the reg to work correctly

    its best to get a contract yes its a little bit more but so worth it when learning ive been there myself so will advise against it

    either get a boc account, sgs i think is down your area or a hobbyweld bottle

    you will also need a regulator but that also depends on the gas bottle you rent

    https://www.weldequip.com/regulators-gas.htm

    theres top entry or side entry on a gas bottle

    this one is top entry

    https://www.weldequip.com/argonmix-conversion-kit.htm
     
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  4. PaulaT

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    Thanks Pete.
    The Manual does mention this. I have to swap these over.
     
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  5. PaulaT

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    Ok good to know.
    I was going to get a disposable one.
    Thanks!
     
  6. Lazurus

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    I use hobby weld for gas, no rental just a deposit for your first bottle then refills for around £30, available all over the UK, and not too bit to move or store
     
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    500e Always buy fire insurance a flood is hard to start

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  8. Hopefuldave Intergalactic pot-mender

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    If (like me) you're learning and wasting a lot of gas, it's worth going for the BOC hobby deal, it's rent the bottle and pay (less) for refills, I worked out that using slightly more than a size-Y a year works out cheaper than the rent-free-with-a-deposit - if you'll only weld a little bit a few times a year then don't rent the bottle!

    Dave H. (the other one)
     
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  9. gaz1

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    boc volkzone deal is 50 plus gas a year 36.00 to give you an idea of price
     
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  10. PaulaT

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    Thank you.
    There's an SGS place just down the road from me. So that's probably the best bet. Any idea of their pricing?
    Looks like you just have to ring the local distributor?
    There's no way to order online that i can see.
     
  11. PaulaT

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    I also just realised that the local SGS distributor is also the place I got my radiator re-cored!
    They are great there.
    Nice.
     
  12. PaulaT

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    Should i get a flow meter too?
     
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  13. Bullet2012

    Bullet2012 Forum Supporter

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    I found a flow meter very useful , as a novice welder it is one of the things that certainly helped me.
     
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  14. PaulaT

    PaulaT Member

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    Brilliant.
    I'll put it on the shopping list!
     
  15. Fazerruss

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    You can get a £20 refund off your cylinder deposit for being a forum member.
    You just send a good old fashioned letter with proof of receipt to SGS and you'll get some money back.
     
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  16. PaulaT

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    Brilliant.
     
  17. slim_boy_fat

    slim_boy_fat Forum Supporter

    Welcome aboard, Paula :waving:. Lots of help and sound advice available from the folk on here, it's a good place to be. :thumbup:

    Is that your car in your avatar? A Vitesse?
     
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  18. Fazerruss

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  19. PaulaT

    PaulaT Member

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    Loving it already!
    It is my MK1 Triumph Vitesse 6 1966. One of the reasons i want to learn welding!
     
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  20. PaulaT

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