Today I acquired...........

[JOEPRO]

If it's too cheap to be true, it usually is

 

[Turbo]

Depending where in NI you are, I would have thought that there would be a local bearings supplier who would be worth using...

Possibly not so easy if you're very rural though.

I use Bearing King and Steel City Bearings, both of whom will ship to NI without a minimum charge, but use UPS, so it's £15 carriage.

No bearing suppliers but there are some places that will source bearings for you. I can do that myself without having to pay their huge markup!

I'm with @JOEPRO as I too avoid sellers who bolt on a premium for NI delivery.
It doesn't make sense either paying £15 delivery for a £5 bearing. Something that small can be posted for under £4!

 

[cheb]

I'll avoid sellers who surcharge delivery costs to the islands. Especially if they try and do it when they send stuff by Royal Mail

 

[Farside]

If it's too cheap to be true, it usually is

I just don't get cheap bastids who grudge paying for the real thing.
There's not all that much price difference between a cheap piece of mediocrity and a Koyo, especially when you take into account the sheer hassle, expense and inconvenience a bearing failure can cause.

 

[Blobber]

Went to get an exchange on my 10ltr gas bottle today but they didnt have any

So I used my man brain and upgraded to the 20ltr bottle

 

[Memmeddu]

Went to the street market again.
But didn't have time to make some photos of what I've got, so here we have two pics from Google.
Anyways I've got one of those Stihl 25" rollomatic es light bar in used but still good conditions, for 10 euro
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And I've gave up and got another masculine drill for 20 euro
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AEG BZ22 Morse taper 2, no mechanical gearbox, just fixed gear and 2 electric speeds selector.
It has what looks like a 15 or 16mm morse taper drill was worth the price by itself.
I've decided to disassemble it for checking it's conditions because of the cracked plastic motor housing but I've discovered it's just a cover layer on the aluminum housing beneath.
Problem is that I cannot remove it because it's part of the brush holders.
Otherwise I would have completely removed it .
Anyways it looks brand new inside so there would be a restoration video about it.
It has some serious and chunky gears in it, almost 30mm thick.

Pictures

Stihl bar

AEG BZ22

@JOEPRO I couldn't resist
STIHL 025 for 35 euro

 

[owas]

Got 12 3 drawer wooden office cabinets to finally get some semblance of order in my workshop, was hoping to get some cheap metal ones but these were only £5 each so I couldn't resist, just won't load them too heavy.

 

[Onoff]

Well happy with this. Sure a bit slower than the compressor but hand portable. I can just wander round the garden and do the barrows, ride on mower, cars etc

Pardon our interruption...

 

[julianthegypsy]

I just don't get cheap bastids who grudge paying for the real thing.
There's not all that much price difference between a cheap piece of mediocrity and a Koyo, especially when you take into account the sheer hassle, expense and inconvenience a bearing failure can cause.

Blimey, I remember when Koyo WERE the "fake" bearings!

 

[Farside]

Blimey, I remember when Koyo WERE the "fake" bearings!

They never were.
They always were as good as SKF, for example, and for some decades now have been better, in my experience.
Since 1980, when I first used Koyo, I've never had a Koyo fail, but had a few others in the same application go toes-up - motorcycle wheel bearings.
In my time at the bearing plant, I discovered a few interesting things.
You can specify how good you want your balls to be - a certain French make were the worst, terrible tolerances allowed on them. I was intrigued to find
Koyo were the tightest tolerances of the lot, and they rigorously enforced it, with bods from Koyo offices turning up regularly for inspections.

 

[Jelly_Sheffield]

Well happy with this. Sure a bit slower than the compressor but hand portable. I can just wander round the garden and do the barrows, ride on mower, cars etc

Pardon our interruption...

I have one of those living behind the seats in the truck, it will allow me to re-inflate four 235/85r16 tyres from 15psi to 36-40psi on a single battery, in not entirely unreasonable time, suits my needs well there.

No comparison to the workshop compressor in performance, but it's 99.4% lighter, 99.3% smaller, and 100% more available in the middle of nowhere... So there's gotta be a compromise, no?

 

[6ply]

There is a drill to go with this as well but it's currently sitting in my car while I summon up the necessary strength. I certainly didn't need it but for the price I paid the base could be used on another project if I don't use the whole drill. I'm actually quite tempted to see if I could convert the drill into a lightweight milling machine although I have plenty enough projects on the go already.

 

[6ply]

 

[Jelly_Sheffield]

Blimey, I remember when Koyo WERE the "fake" bearings!

Bearing King have started selling Chinese bearings as "own brand", by basically doing QA on them on import to check that they're in spec.

I have no doubt that they getting "the good batches" from the same manufacturers who are also supplying the fakers.

At the end of the day, a decent proportion of the fake bearings are basically indistinguishable from the real thing, it's just that being fake there's no consistency to the QA so no guarantees that your particular bearing will hold up as it should which can really matter for some applications.

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From the looks of it that's a very good candidate turn into an entirely reasonable milling machine, as long as it will accommodate you adding a drawbar to the quill (which is normally the biggest limitation on drill to mill-drill projects).

If it's only running in deep groove ball bearings those may not hold up too well to milling, but it's very likely that you could find appropriately sized angular contact or taper roller bearings to replace the existing ones when they fail (or preemptively).

The runout may not end up being as good as a "real" mill (unless you spend roughly "one used Bridgeport worth" on a matched set of bearings), but it would probably be more than good enough to complement the accuracy of an inexpensive X-Y table.

 

[Memmeddu]

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Looks more like a boring drill than a bench drill

 

[6ply]

Looks more like a boring drill than a bench drill

It's a high speed drill. I like the built in z axis plus quill feed, which could simplify a conversion. It actually reminds me of an unusual mill that I used to own that also shared more than a passing resemblance to a boring machine.

 

[6ply]

Bearing King have started selling Chinese bearings as "own brand", by basically doing QA on them on import to check that they're in spec.

I have no doubt that they getting "the good batches" from the same manufacturers who are also supplying the fakers.

At the end of the day, a decent proportion of the fake bearings are basically indistinguishable from the real thing, it's just that being fake there's no consistency to the QA so no guarantees that your particular bearing will hold up as it should which can really matter for some applications.

From the looks of it that's a very good candidate turn into an entirely reasonable milling machine, as long as it will accommodate you adding a drawbar to the quill (which is normally the biggest limitation on drill to mill-drill projects).

If it's only running in deep groove ball bearings those may not hold up too well to milling, but it's very likely that you could find appropriately sized angular contact or taper roller bearings to replace the existing ones when they fail (or preemptively).

The runout may not end up being as good as a "real" mill (unless you spend roughly "one used Bridgeport worth" on a matched set of bearings), but it would probably be more than good enough to complement the accuracy of an inexpensive X-Y table.

I've already got a mill with a 40 int spindle but I wouldn't mind something a bit lighter and quieter for smaller jobs late in the evening. If I can manage to convert this for a reasonable price I think it could be worth keeping. Like I said earlier I didn't pay much for it.

 

[6ply]

It's a high speed drill. I like the built in z axis plus quill feed, which could simplify a conversion. It actually reminds me of an unusual mill that I used to own that also shared more than a passing resemblance to a boring machine.

This is the old mill that reminds me of today's purchase.

 

[Jelly_Sheffield]

I've already got a mill with a 40 int spindle but I wouldn't mind something a bit lighter and quieter for smaller jobs late in the evening. If I can manage to convert this for a reasonable price I think it could be worth keeping. Like I said earlier I didn't pay much for it.

Owning a mill will inevitably make it much easier to build another one!

It's a high speed drill. I like the built in z axis plus quill feed, which could simplify a conversion. It actually reminds me of an unusual mill that I used to own that also shared more than a passing resemblance to a boring machine.

If it's high speed as well that will open up a bunch of possibilities, that's an exciting little project to get around to!

I bought my mill in part because the speed range (56-4500rpm) lets me use small (8mm) carbide and tiny (2mm) HSS end-mills in steel.

I would assume a dedicated high speed drill can probably go higher than that, so a conversion that preserves that could use very small tooling indeed (or mill aluminium very fast using carbide).

 

[6ply]

I can make use of a spare vfd that I have had knocking around for ages and the dewhurst switch can be connected to the digital inputs. Should be a handy tool.