Thinking of building a Haynes Roadster

  1. stuvy

    stuvy Member

    Iv been head hunted this week and will upload some pictures as of Saturday when I’m At donnington.

    It’s not what I wanted but fir the money I honestly can’t complain
     
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  2. Woody.v8

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    My bumpers are not very pedestrian friendly though.
     
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  3. Nick DV

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    Already gone green with envy :laughing: Will be an awesome build :thumbup:
     
  4. gaz_moose Member

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    cant you do the old, buy a rotten old registered kit car off ebay and pinch the logbook trick that everyone used to do to get around having it tested.
     
  5. Bobtail4x4 Member

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    I may even have one for sale
     
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  6. stuvy

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    You could do but it’s a case of ethics and legality
     
  7. ibrooks Member

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    And they are tightening up on it - Dutton used to be fairly common as they were cheap but lots being called in for inspections and having their ID confiscated when it turned out it was actually a Robin Hood/Sylva/Westfield/Locost/whatever. Not worth the risk as it could even happen years down the line. In the club we've even sen people stung when they bought a car unaware that it was using the ID from A.N.Other kit. They are left with a car they can't use on the road and not much else.
     
  8. MattH

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    I have no interest in ways to avoid the IVA.

    I'm not sure I really see what the issue with the IVA is.

    There is a manual that is both the testers procedures and the builders requirements.

    Follow that to the letter and it's job done.

    If I miss something or something is not up to standard then fail the car and make me remediate the issue.

    I'd much rather go through a couple of stringent tests and have a safe and fully legit car at the end of it that not.
     
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  9. stuvy

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    Daily mail scare mongers

    The main part of the Dutton saga it’s veh ringing

    People were buying a Dutton with mk2 escort id and stealing and ringing escorts due to the profit margin
     
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  10. ibrooks Member

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    In general I think SVA/IVA were a good thing and needed to happen but there are some areas I would take issue with mainly down to a lack of common sense being applied by the people writing the rules and/or the testers.

    The requirement for a demisting device on an open top car? come on guys use some common sense. So people don't fit a windscreen until after the test.

    The way some of the "sharp edge" rules are applied is very much down to opinion and interpretation which it has to be by definition when every car tested could be different but some of the things I've seen picked up as a risk to the public or a pedestrian are beyond absurd. Everything gets wrapped in rubber.

    The really big one for me was the changes they made to the braking balance rules when it changed from SVA to IVA. For SVA you could fit a bias device but had to render it non-adjustable so you set it on the testers rollers and then drilled a hole through the adjuster and inserted a split-pin or similar - chances are it would never be touched again. Under IVA you cannot have a bias device at all! So how do you set the correct front-rear brake balance? The official advice "by design". This one really boils my urine - how on earth am I going to test brake balance in a domestic garage?

    There are others.

    In almost every case it results in a car being presented for test in a form that it won't remain in. The car will be built to pass a test and then modified...... SO WHAT WAS THE POINT OF THE ****ING TEST?


    It also bugged me when the manual was fresh in my mind that I'd be sat at the lights next to a nice shiny new Ford/Vauxhall/Renault/whatever and could pick out things that would fail the test. WTF!!

    Like I say SVA/IVA was a good idea and something like it was necessary. I might even go as far as to say that it's overall better than the previous system but there are aspects that seem self defeating. Given a bit of thought, the powers behind it could have even tweaked it in the right direction in the areas where it became obvious that it was excessive or silly but it's almost as if that would be a loss of face.
     
  11. MattH

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    Good points. And you are correct, my car will be built to pass not built to last.
     
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