New motorcycle sales dropping - dealers shutting.

[Munkul]

Yeah the low end Chinese are bloody awful.

When I was younger they were mostly CG clones.

However they got us about

Its kind of hard to mess up building a CG.

 

[Keithmac]

Yeah the low end Chinese are bloody awful.

When I was younger they were mostly CG clones.

However they got us about

Yes the young lads want a geared 50 that looks "sporty", there's nothing in the premium makers line-ups so they end up with these.

They are not cheap either, a 50cc Yamasaki is £2450 iirc?.

 

[mtt.tr]

Its kind of hard to mess up building a CG.

You can use the cheapest nastiest steel, terrible, suspension, awful bearings and rock hard rubber

 

[mtt.tr]

Yes the young lads want a geared 50 that looks "sporty", there's nothing in the premium makers line-ups so they end up with these.

They are not cheap either, a 50cc Yamasaki is £2450 iirc?.

No bad for a working motorcycle, still loads of stuff to bring it all together. No one else is able to offer that.

I loved my ar50 that was pretty well made but that was a long time ago

 

[Bornfree]

Re the Japan vs Chinese motorcycles.

You get what you pay for basically and comparing a Honda to CF Moto etc is not chalk and cheese comparison.

We do work on a lot of Chinese brand motorcycles mainly because we feel sorry for the people who have been legged into them elsewhere an then realise their is no real parts support or dealers either able or willing to repair the faults that occur.

I had two Yamasaki (not joking) 50cc 2023 bikes lined up to do before I went on holiday.

One turned out to be ECU failure at 2100 miles, the other that had been at another shop for 3 months turned out to be engine failure at 4000 miles.

The lad with the ECU failure has had a fair way to travel and the engine failure lad has also been properly mess about.

KTM build quality has also gone down the toilet, that is why they are in the position they are in at the moment.

Only saving grace of having 2 Yamazakis in is I could use electrical parts off one to 100% verify the other's faults. They are absolute garbage build quality wise.

We are mulling over being main dealers oddly enough as if we are fixing them anyway we may as well sell them..

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I've only recently discovered my BMW f800r has a Chinese made engine in it.

 

[premmington]

Re the Japan vs Chinese motorcycles.

You get what you pay for basically and comparing a Honda to CF Moto etc is not chalk and cheese comparison.

We do work on a lot of Chinese brand motorcycles mainly because we feel sorry for the people who have been legged into them elsewhere an then realise their is no real parts support or dealers either able or willing to repair the faults that occur.

I had two Yamasaki (not joking) 50cc 2023 bikes lined up to do before I went on holiday.

One turned out to be ECU failure at 2100 miles, the other that had been at another shop for 3 months turned out to be engine failure at 4000 miles.

The lad with the ECU failure has had a fair way to travel and the engine failure lad has also been properly mess about.

KTM build quality has also gone down the toilet, that is why they are in the position they are in at the moment.

Only saving grace of having 2 Yamazakis in is I could use electrical parts off one to 100% verify the other's faults. They are absolute garbage build quality wise.

We are mulling over being main dealers oddly enough as if we are fixing them anyway we may as well sell them..

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Are you trying to talk me into buying a Voge 300 Rally...

@Keithmac - "speak freely" - I value your opinion....

 

[addjunkie]

Are you trying to talk me into buying a Voge 300 Rally...

@Keithmac - "speak freely" - I value your opinion....

You should buy one, then tell me what you think of it!