MIG vs ARC, MIG vs Me...

  1. SteScouse

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    Still not got enough clamps tho :doh:
     
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    That's a nice looking bit of timber.
     
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    No one ever has enough lol; you have lots more than me, I only have a couple of C clamps and a bunch of locking pliers and spring clamps.
     
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    always ways to clamp stuff on the cheap







     
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  5. SteScouse

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    Cheers lads, been collecting clamps for years

    Timber was not expensive really. Bought 5x 4x2 planed all round, 2 metres long, and 1 3x2 same length. Cane to £33

    Think might actually be cheaper than b&q stuff i was going to use

    Told lad at timber yard looking to make a bench top and he did his best re flat pieces.
     
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    BTW the blue sash clamps are all from toostation. Dont really rate them, holes poorly spaced and nearly always need to pack them out

    The steel one in middle is from Screwfix, got it today. Looks flimsy but actually much better
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    The g clamps are mostly Wickes as they good and not expensive for what they are. The red one is Screwfix and good too

    But the puny blue one lower right of picture that looks like it's actually twisting (it is) is Machine Mart. Never again
     
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  7. SteScouse

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    Re Machine Mart found its mixed blessings.

    Really like my Clarke MIG,, and have read several posts on here where same machine gets thumbs up from others

    I like the bandasw i got there too, much safer than a grinder, better acvuracy and a whole lot quieter, stand is pants tho, trolley next project

    Staff in my experience have been very helpful and friendly

    But hand tools....oh dear. Weak clamps as above and centre punches made from jaberwocky metal

    Not reassuring first time you use a centre punch if its tip flattens.

    Pity cos for little increase in cost they could sell quality stuff
     
  8. SteScouse

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    And yeah, i wont buy til a voucher appears :clapping:
     
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    I've used Machinemart a couple of times now; staff were always very helpful. I bought my Clarke MIG machine secondhand and so far I haven't used it much, but I already like it. I can see Machinemart being useful for certain things, but as you say some stuff I'd prefer to shop elsewhere. I'm spoiled locally as I have B&Q, Wickes, Toolstation, Screwfix and others all within a short drive or a long walk away.
     
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  10. Parm

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    A couple of lengths of timber shorter than the width of the top. One each at the top and bottom. Making a sandwich arrangement. Clamp the perpendicular bearers to the two edge pieces and then use some strapping across the perpendicular bearers to make a tourniquet arrangement to clamp together. Probably could have done the whole lot in one go. The perpendicular timber prevents the boards from curling up
     
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    Good suggestion re timber to sandwhich it down.

    Cant make it all in one go however, only got 3 clamps wide enough. And one of those is aluminium and doesn't exert half as much force.

    So for now making two halves that have been clamped as much as possible. Then buy or make more long steel clamps.
     
  12. SteScouse

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    Tempted to make them but even then it means buying a sacrificial g clamp of decent quality for each one. Looked into coarse threaded bar and nuts, g clamps cheaper., about £4

    Like your suggestion Parm but i think i more confidence in the pressure obtained from g clamps than strapping like ratchet straps.

    With steel underneath wood being laminated and protective wooden offcuts across the top, you can really muller the clamps

    Got a good result Saturday :thumbup:
     
  13. SteScouse

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    Take it back, Screwfix clamp just gave way on me, threaded nut part

    Just went boing, yes boing :doh:

    Can now push threaded bar back and forth in the nut section

    Back to Screwfix after rush hour to moan and get refund.

    Wouldn't mind not like I'm scoring steroids, just pies and pints !
     
  14. gaz1

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    i kinda made my own up from something else

    all this would need is a piece of wood full length with a wedge on end of it

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    You shouldn't really be doing a Geoff Capes on the clamps !!

    Too much pressure applied will just squeeze out all the expensive glue that you are using.

    Its the glue that sticks the wood not the pressure from the clamp !!!

    Light pressure to keep them all together and aligned is all that's required
     
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  16. SteScouse

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    Haha i remember Geoff Capes, think was a copper wasn't he as well as strongman

    I get your point re glue n wedges lads, but that's all easier if every single piece perfectly square along full length

    Some of these had slight pulls one direction or another. Dont think wedges alone would close gaps enough for glue to do its stuff

    Hence brute force lol. No point being a northern gallute if ya cant bend a 4x2 now n then :drunk:

    Thankfully the two halves done now, next gonna make some "Capes" clamps to fasten them together
     
  17. SteScouse

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    PS, really like your woodwork gaz, looks the part :thumbup:

    Its Its great seeing what other people have done
     
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  18. SteScouse

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    Clamping simplified.... IMG_20190918_190221194_HDR.jpg

    Seems like frame strong enough.

    Finished painting the frame yesterday and got holes drilled for securing the top, will use 8mmx30mm coach screws

    Hoping tmw to trim top to size, sand it free of pencil marks etc

    Next few days treat it and get it into shed.

    Hopefully next photo is finished item
     
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    Worse thing about using breeze blocks as weights is touching the slug that was at home on one of them

    Honestly, i never ran round the garden screaming, really, i didn't :whistle:
     
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  20. Parm

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    We believe you, others may not
     
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