Horizontal mill?

[MattF]

I

have small tools for use with my small chuck so its not a massive problem either lol

That's the thing, keeping sizes relative. I can remember spending ages wondering why some people suggested that large machines and small pieces didn't generally mix, as obviously the machine is readily capable of doing fine work. Then, one day, I just happened to be stood at the side of a machine with a large chuck fitted, and the penny dropped. Having that rotating merrily away when you lean close to the chuck to peer at the piece you're working on would not be fun. On a 3-1/2" machine or so, the chuck size is relative to the work so you can't really lean into the chuck when inspecting the piece closely. Do the same on a large machine though, and you suddenly have a foot or so of rotating face mangling equipment waiting to have you. There's a lot to be said for having a small and large machine available, else using your technique and fitting a small chuck for fine work.

 

[MattF]

How about this lathe:
Never heard of Supreme lathes and certainly needs a good clean but it looks like a very stout piece of kit.
Only £150

What are you planning on making? I bet that's far larger than what most have on here. I definitely think setting your sights a bit lower on size might be an idea, especially for a starter machine. You will usually find the large stuff is quite cheap, simply for the fact that few have the facilities or space for transporting and storing the stuff. Something like that would practically occupy all of the space in the shed on it's own.

 

[ukracer]

What are you planning on making? I bet that's far larger than what most have on here. I definitely think setting your sights a bit lower on size might be an idea, especially for a starter machine. You will usually find the large stuff is quite cheap, simply for the fact that few have the facilities or space for transporting and storing the stuff. Something like that would practically occupy all of the space in the shed on it's own.

I think another consideration is tooling and accessories. They can add hundreds to the final bill just for basics like travelling and fixed steadies etc.

 

[Pete.]

I bet that Supreme weights a ton and a half,, maybe as much as 2 tons. If you could shift it, I'd snap it up but it'll be a complete cowson to move without expert help especially with that little tailstock leg.

 

[Wendelspanswick]

You are going to struggle with large commercial machines with a 13 amp supply.

Both my mill and my Colchester Student lathe run off of a 13amp socket via a 3Kw single to 3 phase inverter with no problems whatsoever.

 

[ukracer]

Both my mill and my Colchester Student lathe run off of a 13amp socket via a 3Kw single to 3 phase inverter with no problems whatsoever.

I said large mate Student is only a baby

 

[Maker]

I said large mate Student is only a baby

There's a Colchester Master in Staffordshire for £10 , it's got to be worth well more than that as scrap iron.
Is that what you consider large?

 

[ukracer]

Yeah got a link as I need a spare part...lol I am after the thread dial indicator.

 

[Rig Pig]

Large lathes - google DSG Oil Country lathe 10 1/2" spindle bore!

 

[Maker]

Large lathes - google DSG Oil Country lathe 10 1/2" spindle bore!

Arn't they for machining weld preps on huge pipe?

 

[Rig Pig]

Bevelling and cutting the threads on drill pipe and casing

 

[ukracer]

There's a Colchester Master in Staffordshire for £10 , it's got to be worth well more than that as scrap iron.
Is that what you consider large?

And my mom lives in staffordshire............would you know if the screwcutting dial is the same on a Colchester master and a Colchester master 2500 or if its still on that lathe???

 

[Wendelspanswick]

I said large mate Student is only a baby

My point was a 3 phase 4hp motor will run from a 13amp socket via an inverter and a 4hp motor will power a large lathe or mill.
Woodworking machinery needs large HP motors whereas metalworking machinery needs relatively small motors.
As an example my mechanical 40 ton ironworker uses a 2 hp motor to punch a 25mm hole through 12mm plate. Takes less than a second.

 

[Maker]

And my mom lives in staffordshire............would you know if the screwcutting dial is the same on a Colchester master and a Colchester master 2500 or if its still on that lathe???

I can't see any dials on it.

 

[ukracer]

My point was a 3 phase 4hp motor will run from a 13amp socket via an inverter and a 4hp motor will power a large lathe or mill.
Woodworking machinery needs large HP motors whereas metalworking machinery needs relatively small motors.
As an example my mechanical 40 ton ironworker uses a 2 hp motor to punch a 25mm hole through 12mm plate. Takes less than a second.

You surprise me I was told 16 amp minimum but 32 amp supply to be safe. ;(

 

[ukracer]

I can't see any dials on it.

Shame. this thread shows the screwcutting indicator dial and its location. http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/threads/colchester-master-2500-lathe.46345/

 

[brightspark]

You are going to struggle with large commercial machines with a 13 amp supply.

that depends on the supply to the property .i have 100 amp fuse in the boards cutout . a 80 amp switchfuse feeding a 35mm cable across to garage in to the db so check your supply thats the limiting factor

 

[Welderpaul]

that depends on the supply to the property .i have 100 amp fuse in the boards cutout . a 80 amp switchfuse feeding a 35mm cable across to garage in to the db so check your supply thats the limiting factor

What is the biggest fuse size they will put in a single phase domestic cut out? Sure we have 120 amp fuses when I had reason to, er, inspect them once.

 

[brightspark]

its normaly 100 amp and stamped on the side of the fuse carrier . to be honest u can load them up to the hilt and if it does blow they come out and replace it free the 1st time . just check your load before u do it again or its 50 quid to change. it is possible to put bigger ones in

 

[Maker]

Shame. this thread shows the screwcutting indicator dial and its location. http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/threads/colchester-master-2500-lathe.46345/

It does have that but it's smaller, facing straight up and on the other side of the apron.