Dog poison antifreeze

[Kram]

Not particually toxic in my, non professional opinion. The warning to keep out of reach of children, I still believe adequate.

Do you have children?

 

[Redsailor]

Screen wash used to contain methanol which is extremely toxic, although I think this was banned some while back. Now it's usually a mix of ethanol or iso propyl alcohol.. I have seen some screen wash mixes that contain Bitrex, so perhaps these are the ones to go for. Having said that I remember the dog I had many years ago would eat or drink anything, you always had to keep an eye on her.

 

[Barking Mat]

Doesn't anywhere say dangerous, or do not drink.

Just says contains freezing inhibitor.

I'd threaten to sue them personally.

As others have said incorrect warnings.

So sorry for your loss.

 

[julianf]

Methanol, IIRC, is really toxic to humans, and (i may be making this up) some other primates, but not so much to many other mamals.

Its not actually the methanol that kills you either, but that its metabolised into stuff that does for you.

I may be talking nonsense, but its my memory that humans are especially bad with it.

 

[prepman]

I don't know about windshield/windscreen wash solutions on your side of the Atlantic, but the last one that I bought here has methanol in it. The label reads as follows:

DANGER (skull & crossbones) POISON
WARNING: Contains methanol.
May be fatal or cause blindness if swallowed.
Vapor harmful.
Cannot be made non-poisonous.

Edit: Very sorry to hear about your dog.

At least you know what your up against with that. I would look really foolish if the Asda one turns out to be benign. But too many things tie-in. All coincidences?

 

[prepman]

Doesn't anywhere say dangerous, or do not drink.

Just says contains freezing inhibitor.

I'd threaten to sue them personally.

As others have said incorrect warnings.

So sorry for your loss.

Thanks . I keep my antifreeze in my oil store with all the other nasties. But screenwash never entered my mind. It's the concentrated version. Maybe it isn't poisonous? But what is it?
BTW: my response to Karan an cus serv was....
>I think my next move is to contact trading standards and the public health dept. Not a store >manager,

 

[mrsbruce]

I believe that antifreeze has to contain a bittering agent by law, so that this exact thing does not happen. Why cannot that legislation be extended to screenwash?

They’ve been demanding a bittering agent be added to antifreeze for years now, but I’m not sure whether the legislation ever got through or not.


prepman I’m sorry about your dog. It’s so easy for these things to go wrong, especially when the ‘remedy’ is a simple flavour additive.

 

[DanZac]

But doesn't state the chemical composition or have a hazard symbol? (That I could see)

Googling the hazard data sheets for Asda screenwash brings up 2 immediate hits

https://www.officestationery.co.uk/documents/11704-132870.pdf

Which looks like your one, and,

https://safety365.sevron.co.uk/substances/accessSDS/SDS-97836-578f8c11d15bf7.30916819

Which looks like the extreme version.

Happy to admit when I'm wrong, and it looks like both versions aren't very good for you and should probably have some warnings on the label?

 

[prepman]

Googling the hazard data sheets for Asda screenwash brings up 2 immediate hits

https://www.officestationery.co.uk/documents/11704-132870.pdf

Which looks like your one, and,

https://safety365.sevron.co.uk/substances/accessSDS/SDS-97836-578f8c11d15bf7.30916819

Which looks like the extreme version.

Happy to admit when I'm wrong, and it looks like both versions aren't very good for you and should probably have some warnings on the label?

Sheeeet! Methanol?

 

[prepman]

If we were still in the EU would it be mandatory to have the poison symbol?

 

[Barking Mat]

If we were still in the EU would it be mandatory to have the poison symbol?

Should anyway surely ?

 

[prepman]

Should anyway surely ?

Nope...You can go back to a previous thread about magdrill zero volt switch which is mandatory in EU but not UK and rest of world (that's us). That was given directly to me from trading standards.
I even suspected Wagg dog food using some dodgy meat or the firewood having tanalised pieces in it or shot by farmer (was limping also...red-herring). He had (past tense ) 15acres to run in and he knew his heft.

 

[Brad93]

How do you know it was the screenwash and not some other stuff you let your dog drink?

Dogs are happy to eat and shet where ever they please, sometimes in the same place. Unfortunatly not great for the health. Either make their environment clean and safe, keep a closer watch on them - like you would a child, or accept it as nature.

As you say, owners fault. We can not ban every chemical just because an owner stores incorrectly.


Btw generally screenwash is a water/alcohol mix (not nessasarily ethanol, but generally is). It does not generally contain the poison ethelene glycol which makes up antifreeze, which is a problem due to the sweet taste, hence needjng to be bittered.

Where it says, "Keep out of reach of children", this sentence applies to stupid pets too! Adequate warning in my opinion.

That's a shocking response Kram. Obviously don't like animals for a response like that.

 

[Pete.]

I'm so sorry that you lost your dog, it would break my heart if I lost my girl in such a fashion. It's no consolation but try not to beat yourself up about assuming it was a leaking beer can. It could so easily have been just that.

 

[prepman]

I'm so sorry that you lost your dog, it would break my heart if I lost my girl in such a fashion. It's no consolation but try not to beat yourself up about assuming it was a leaking beer can. It could so easily have been just that.

Thanks Pete. I'm gutted. My baby's gone.

 

[ajlelectronics]

Thanks Pete. I'm gutted. My baby's gone.

Like just seems so inappropriate, it is devastating to anyone with a heart to lose a loyal companion, particularly in such an accident.

 

[Cheesie]

All antifreeze is poisonous as far as I know I've heard of people lacing tuna or steak and throwing it over a fence to get rid of a dog or cat, nasty stuff

 

[James1979]

How do you know it was the screenwash and not some other stuff you let your dog drink?

Dogs are happy to eat and shet where ever they please, sometimes in the same place. Unfortunatly not great for the health. Either make their environment clean and safe, keep a closer watch on them - like you would a child, or accept it as nature.

As you say, owners fault. We can not ban every chemical just because an owner stores incorrectly.


Btw generally screenwash is a water/alcohol mix (not nessasarily ethanol, but generally is). It does not generally contain the poison ethelene glycol which makes up antifreeze, which is a problem due to the sweet taste, hence needjng to be bittered.

Where it says, "Keep out of reach of children", this sentence applies to stupid pets too! Adequate warning in my opinion.

Absolute tube.

Keep your vile opinion to yourself if you’ve nothing nice to say.

Easy to say hiding behind a keyboard. Another one for the block list.

Sorry to hear that @prepman. Asdas response makes it worse. I’m not a fan of shaming on social media but if you get little or no joy then you could put it on their Facebook and instagram and gee them up a bit…..

 

[prepman]

All antifreeze is poisonous as far as I know I've heard of people lacing tuna or steak and throwing it over a fence to get rid of a dog or cat, nasty stuff

There were instances of it in Devon where it was being deliberately left out to kill.

 

[prepman]

My biggest issue is my age. Getting another dog is easy when your 30 or so.... on the rebound. But at 73 he was going to see me out. I reckoned on being 81 when he shuffled off (if he was first). So total f'up. Getting pacemaker soon so I'll live forever . But no Benji.