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It'll never catch on, they can't be exploited for massive profit.
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The luddites will only be happy when we are all dead.
The current politics and environmentalism, is a radical fundamentalist religion.Everything seems to be political now, left or right even if it’s over parking or eating preferences...
Because everything is political making sensible decisions that should be based on science and fact just don’t happen for fear of appearing non pc .
We’ve got no chance of anyone making a decision in time.
This is not just my theory a scientist said this. First religion holds us back for five hundred years and now politics
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There used to be a small one, in Greenwich.
mike os
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Ay… and the new one is costing us all a bloody fortune
Sorry but I just had to
this is the location for the mooreside plant 20 mins ago and it’s not even high tide
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Sorry but I just had to
BAH, i've done bigger after half a gallon of coffee !
China is at last seeing sense.
Ramping up nuclear power on a huge scale. And they need to.
www.bloomberg.com
Nuclear power is so much cheaper than renewables and more reliable.
The biggest problem in the West are the crazy interest rates allocated to construction costs. Often as high as 10% when in reality they are less than 2%. This drives the estimated costs of the electricity far higher than they should be.
Ramping up nuclear power on a huge scale. And they need to.
China’s Climate Goals Hinge on a $440 Billion Nuclear Buildout
China is planning at least 150 new reactors in the next 15 years, more than the rest of the world has built in the past 35.
www.bloomberg.com
The biggest problem in the West are the crazy interest rates allocated to construction costs. Often as high as 10% when in reality they are less than 2%. This drives the estimated costs of the electricity far higher than they should be.
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Looks like the Small Reactors are here https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59201945
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RR have been making reactors for our submarines for over 50 years. They have not been perfect but none have gone seriously wrong. This sounds like a better approach than the various alternatives depending on Russian gas, French reactors etc, etc. I'm sure that one of the old Magnox sites in N.Wales may well get one 
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20 to 30 years time is my guessRR have been making reactors for our submarines for over 50 years. They have not been perfect but none have gone seriously wrong. This sounds like a better approach than the various alternatives depending on Russian gas, French reactors etc, etc. I'm sure that one of the old Magnox sites in N.Wales may well get one
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Hard to say. I had a job interview at Rolls in the early 1980's and they were talking about these even then. At that time, they thought they could sell them to the "Third World", but subsequent security concerns knocked that on the head. I think we could have the first one in less than 10 years.
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pretty much my point, it was soon in the 70's imminent in the 80's but 40 years later we still dont even have a working prototype, hell we barely have a functioning test bed, haven't even proven the theory yet, certainly haven't achieved a proof of concept
Politician's IMO have always asked Joe Public the wrong question when it comes to nuclear.
They ask "do you want nuclear?" Which always gets a resounding NO!
If instead they were to ask "do you want to go back to pre-war power, with periods without any electricity and then only very restricted power - or will you accept Nuclear power as it's the only viable resource - and the answer is very likely to be different.
(Once you'd got past all the bull and lobbying of those with a vested interest in Wind/Solar and no interest in whether or not Joe Public is sat in the dark or not that is
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They ask "do you want nuclear?" Which always gets a resounding NO!
If instead they were to ask "do you want to go back to pre-war power, with periods without any electricity and then only very restricted power - or will you accept Nuclear power as it's the only viable resource - and the answer is very likely to be different.
(Once you'd got past all the bull and lobbying of those with a vested interest in Wind/Solar and no interest in whether or not Joe Public is sat in the dark or not that is
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mike os
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or even blunter... do you want coal/gas, nuclear or lights out at 7pm?Politician's IMO have always asked Joe Public the wrong question when it comes to nuclear.
They ask "do you want nuclear?" Which always gets a resounding NO!
If instead they were to ask "do you want to go back to pre-war power, with periods without any electricity and then only very restricted power - or will you accept Nuclear power as it's the only viable resource - and the answer is very likely to be different.
(Once you'd got past all the bull and lobbying of those with a vested interest in Wind/Solar and no interest in whether or not Joe Public is sat in the dark or not that is
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As I understand it, the SMR cannot be a direct copy of the submarine reactor, but it will be a comparable pressurised water reactor using uranium oxide fuel instead of uranium metal. I'd bet that many of the key components are already designed and 3D printed, if not actually prototyped. I'd guess that Rolls are looking at world sales and have probably spent significant money on this in recent years. Wouldn't you love it if they could sell them in to the US and EU .
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ah so we are talking conventional compact unit here?As I understand it, the SMR cannot be a direct copy of the submarine reactor, but it will be a comparable pressurised water reactor using uranium oxide fuel instead of uranium metal. I'd bet that many of the key components are already designed and 3D printed, if not actually prototyped. I'd guess that Rolls are looking at world sales and have probably spent significant money on this in recent years. Wouldn't you love it if they could sell them in to the US and EU
