I was going to say don't forget to bend your knees.Last time I saw legs like that they were attached to a bird!
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I was going to say don't forget to bend your knees.Last time I saw legs like that they were attached to a bird!
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Thats my son wor Mick ive told him and he's on his way round to stick his size 12's on the end of his bird legs reet up ya hoopLast time I saw legs like that they were attached to a bird!
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I was going to say don't forget to bend your knees.![]()
As far as I know MOST of the big brands don't have any protection in the battery pack. The only brand I'm aware of that does any protection in the battery is Makita.Just a warning if you’re not aware- or if you are others might not be-
Unlike almost everyone else Dewalt does its battery discharge protection in the tool - the batteries themselves have nothing stopping them over discharging and damaging themselves.
And the exception is... Ryobi, which has a OZ8940ATN BMS on a circuit board in the pack itself.As far as I know MOST of the big brands don't have any protection in the battery pack. The only brand I'm aware of that does any protection in the battery is Makita.
As far as I know MOST of the big brands don't have any protection in the battery pack. The only brand I'm aware of that does any protection in the battery is Makita.
Brand | Over-Discharge Protection | Notes | Reference Link |
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Milwaukee | ![]() | REDLINK™ Intelligence provides overload and discharge protection within the battery pack. | Milwaukee M18 REDLITHIUM XC5.0 |
Bosch | ![]() | Electronic Cell Protection (ECP) safeguards against deep discharge and other issues. | Bosch POWER FOR ALL |
Makita | ![]() ![]() | XGT batteries have full protection; older LXT batteries may rely on the tool. | Makita 40V Max XGT Battery |
Hilti | ![]() | CPC technology monitors individual cells to prevent over-discharge. | Hilti B22 4.0 Battery |
Ridgid | ![]() | IntelliPort technology includes over-discharge and cell balancing protection. | Ridgid 18V Lithium Batteries |
Ryobi | ![]() | Newer Lithium+ and High Performance batteries have internal protection; older ones may not. | Ryobi 18V 4Ah High Performance |
DeWalt | ![]() | Battery relies on the tool to prevent over-discharge; use external protection if repurposing. | DeWalt Battery Discussion |
At least the Milwaukee statement that they've got over discharge protection has been proven as bull poop (this is me as a Milwaukee user). Fairly sure the majority of the others have also been shown to be false statements.Cordless Tool Battery Over-Discharge Protection Table
Brand Over-Discharge Protection Notes Reference Link Milwaukee Yes
REDLINK™ Intelligence provides overload and discharge protection within the battery pack. Milwaukee M18 REDLITHIUM XC5.0 Bosch Yes
Electronic Cell Protection (ECP) safeguards against deep discharge and other issues. Bosch POWER FOR ALL Makita Yes (XGT),
Partial (LXT)
XGT batteries have full protection; older LXT batteries may rely on the tool. Makita 40V Max XGT Battery Hilti Yes
CPC technology monitors individual cells to prevent over-discharge. Hilti B22 4.0 Battery Ridgid Yes
IntelliPort technology includes over-discharge and cell balancing protection. Ridgid 18V Lithium Batteries Ryobi Yes (High Performance models)
Newer Lithium+ and High Performance batteries have internal protection; older ones may not. Ryobi 18V 4Ah High Performance DeWalt No (tool-controlled)
Battery relies on the tool to prevent over-discharge; use external protection if repurposing. DeWalt Battery Discussion
They have monitoring but no actual protection - that is down to the tool. Plug something dumb into the battery and you WILL overdischarge it. The BMS only signals the tool to tell it there's a fault, it doesn't actually cut the power.That video is says they do have over discharge protection circuits that prevents the per cell voltage going below 2.0v. This is lower than the 2.5v the video author thinks it should be, I don’t know the validity of that. He also mentions in the video that 2.0v minimum is within the Samsung battery cell spec for certain types.
Dewalt has nothing.
Lithium batteries are most likely to catch fire, catastrophically, when empty.
From the design perspective the tool already has to have a big MOSFET in there to control the tool so why introduce another lossy component in the battery? It's extra cost and less efficient and they get around it by saying you should only use their tools with their batteries which they know and have tested to work.Tool_Scientist
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Monitoring is in the battery, actual cutoff is done by the tool. Battery measures voltage of all cells and when any cell goes below 2.0V (for 18650 packs) or 2.5V (for 6ah, 9ah and high-output batteries), the battery signals the tool to stop.
Most batteries have no way of cutting power. 12ah may be able to cut power, but I'm not sure. Thrifty Tool Shed found a pair of high powered mosfets under the big heatsink, but it's unclear what they're for. It doesn't make sense for them to be used for LVC as that is already handled by the tool.
At least the Milwaukee statement that they've got over discharge protection has been proven as bull poop (this is me as a Milwaukee user). Fairly sure the majority of the others have also been shown to be false statements.
I'm not sure if it's applicable to all technologies but I'm fairly sure it's lithium ion that's dangerous to over discharge, over charge, over heat and do pretty much anything else with. By dangerous I mean fire starting dangerous. That's why most batteries are shipped at 50% charge.so they are been electronically stopped rather than running out of power. I've recently been sanding the walls and wood work with the 125mm RO sander and multitool which are power-hungry and 5ah batteries are lasting around 25 minutes so battery off and put on charge with another charged battery ready to go with just enough rest in doing so for my hands to stop tingling and the pad to cool down. Not sure if I'm just lucky or there is something I'm doing that is prolonging the batteries.
Is there a shortage of asses' milk around there?beer in spa and happy wife.
The single sided spot welder looks interesting, is it an add on to a machine or a whole new bit of kit?I made a pair of new drip rails fit the Mini and used the single side spot welded to get the attached.
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Replaced a manky section of the RH A-pillar.
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And welded up some worn Austin 7 clutch plates.
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