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Travelling to places that don’t use the English alphabet in the days before sat nav was always “interesting”.
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Back in the early 90's I'd be sent to building sites all over the South East. Easy for London just use the A-Z but for outside London I'd have the address so I'd find the town in the AA road atlas, drive there then hope to spot a postman or milkman to get directions to a particular road. If that didn't work it would be petrol station for a local map. I ended up with a pile of 15 or 20 of those in the front of the van.
People born after the millennium don't know how easy they have it. We had to work hard and remember stuff back then.
Managed a bit more "roof bothering" today before the rain came in too heavily.
I've fitted a new overlaid Purlin section (the old part was rotten & short... I suspect rainwater has been leaking under the old leadwork for years rotting is away unseen). My "new bit" extends to sit into the RSJ that replaced the wall when the old milking parlour building was extended decades ago - so it's sitting in the "I" beam one end, and bolted through the existing Purlin in the other - so hopefully it's going nowhere (the Purlin also sits recessed into the A-Frame by an inch - so its pretty solid).
The Rafter bottom half was also AWOL altogether (& it looked like there's been some "repairs" done over 30-years-ago which I think ignored this missing rafter section completely).
So, there's now a new 3x2 Rafter tip to bottom, which also supports the timber under the leadwork (which must have just been "floating" unsupported all this time.
I've screwed new Rafters on, but as well today I've gone all over the side I'm working on with my new Clarke Air nailer & fired in some 90mm nails to reinforce any aged & rusting originals. (Air nailer is a hefty beast plus the airline to drag about.... but works an absolute treat!)
So, the framework (barring an infill into the small gap between Rafters on the eaves & the Weatherboard) is now ready for membrane & battens
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Being a clueless numpty - I didn't know anything about Headlap and Starter Courses ( Google has been er.... googled) - so I never check what the Headlap is (I can check the other side next time I'm up there though). There's a 45-degree top cut on the Rafters though, so the roof is steep enough to run off well (if I can manage to do it properly).
The old slates though - weren't laid properly - I've worked that much out - cos there were nails through the Head of each slate (which also made getting the old ones off without breakages a time for the "Mission Impossible" soundtrack). So I think I'm going to have to try and work it out from scratch.
I've discovered I need a "Cant" at the bottom to make the slates lie properly, & that the Starter Course and First Course are critical, and need a different Headlap to the rest of the courses.
I think I'm getting a headache!
If I can get the starter & first course sussed.... then after that I think I just need batten spacing to give me at least a 3" Headlap (old gauge was 9", on an 18" Slate... which is I think wrong, as (from researching) an 18" Slate, with a 3" Headlap would be on a 7.5" gauge??).... so I'm wondering now if half the reason the battens were all rotten - is because there wasn't enough overlap on the slates from day 1 - to keep the water out? (I really need to check the other side, cos I am far from sure I'm right with my calcs at this point!).
I dare say I'll get there - eventually
I've fitted a new overlaid Purlin section (the old part was rotten & short... I suspect rainwater has been leaking under the old leadwork for years rotting is away unseen). My "new bit" extends to sit into the RSJ that replaced the wall when the old milking parlour building was extended decades ago - so it's sitting in the "I" beam one end, and bolted through the existing Purlin in the other - so hopefully it's going nowhere (the Purlin also sits recessed into the A-Frame by an inch - so its pretty solid).
The Rafter bottom half was also AWOL altogether (& it looked like there's been some "repairs" done over 30-years-ago which I think ignored this missing rafter section completely).
So, there's now a new 3x2 Rafter tip to bottom, which also supports the timber under the leadwork (which must have just been "floating" unsupported all this time.
I've screwed new Rafters on, but as well today I've gone all over the side I'm working on with my new Clarke Air nailer & fired in some 90mm nails to reinforce any aged & rusting originals. (Air nailer is a hefty beast plus the airline to drag about.... but works an absolute treat!)
So, the framework (barring an infill into the small gap between Rafters on the eaves & the Weatherboard) is now ready for membrane & battens
.Being a clueless numpty - I didn't know anything about Headlap and Starter Courses ( Google has been er.... googled) - so I never check what the Headlap is (I can check the other side next time I'm up there though). There's a 45-degree top cut on the Rafters though, so the roof is steep enough to run off well (if I can manage to do it properly).
The old slates though - weren't laid properly - I've worked that much out - cos there were nails through the Head of each slate (which also made getting the old ones off without breakages a time for the "Mission Impossible" soundtrack). So I think I'm going to have to try and work it out from scratch.
I've discovered I need a "Cant" at the bottom to make the slates lie properly, & that the Starter Course and First Course are critical, and need a different Headlap to the rest of the courses.
I think I'm getting a headache!
If I can get the starter & first course sussed.... then after that I think I just need batten spacing to give me at least a 3" Headlap (old gauge was 9", on an 18" Slate... which is I think wrong, as (from researching) an 18" Slate, with a 3" Headlap would be on a 7.5" gauge??).... so I'm wondering now if half the reason the battens were all rotten - is because there wasn't enough overlap on the slates from day 1 - to keep the water out? (I really need to check the other side, cos I am far from sure I'm right with my calcs at this point!).
I dare say I'll get there - eventually
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Back in the 80's/90's when I did rally rescue/recovery we would be given a 6 digit OS map reference, usually a forest commission road in the middle of a forest and told to be there by xx time, I got quite good at map reading
daleyd
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Navigation by pubs was always a popular oneBack in the 80's/90's when I did rally rescue/recovery we would be given a 6 digit OS map reference, usually a forest commission road in the middle of a forest and told to be there by xx time, I got quite good at map reading
If you are hoping to ditch maps and use gps or satnav in Ireland I'm afraid you will get lost.
There are still parts that have not been mapped properly by Google maps or the maps are out of date. Nobody uses the postcode system in ROI so often the satnav can't find an address.
I have travelled all over this country and if I had relied solely on satnav I'd be lost somewhere in rural Ireland!
So keep your map handy!
I can’t, I bought my compass from the same company !
Hood
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Decided I wasn't keen on the blueish anodising so popped it in the etch solution to remove the anodising the redid but kept it in the dye longer so it came out black. Re-lasered the text and happy with the results.
Yesterdays colour
todays colour.
Yesterdays colour
todays colour.
I've only just chucked my slightly smaller collection of A-Zs. And a couple of US equivalents.
I still have my RandMcnally of the US - but I only remember about it when I'm in a rental with no installed GPS and my phone . . .
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Apart from a collection of rural town street maps, I found that nipping into the first cop shop I'd usually find a large scale map pinned to the wall in the reception area.
My late dad used to drive a lorry. Ask him for directions anywhere and he would know, and tell you where to turn left, right etc. I would be going over this in my head, in the fruitless belief I would remember some of it. He would then proceed to give me another one or more ways to get there!
daleyd
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I think that’s true of most people of a certain age - I travel a fair bit with my job and whenever I go somewhere it’s guaranteed that I get interrogated by the father in law about which way I went, alternative routes and which way I should have gone
ajlelectronics
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Looks amazing! Just needs a knobsock now for waterproofing. I just checked my switches box and I don't have any that size, else I would have sent you one.
Hood
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Switch is IP67.
The problem being most of my dad's route instructions were pre-motorway. And even if they did include one, they tended to divert off as the earliest opportunity.
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Switch is IP67.
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Onoff
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AA map books, Dad would get one every year, even I did when I first started driving. A-Z round London. I've lost count of the little red map books I've bought up and down the country. Then it was Auto Route and print off a paper copy. SatNavs next and now built in to the cars but I tend to use Waze now on the phone.
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