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A painful amount later and I have some replacement lights.
To aid in drilling the holes a bit of actual CAD (computer aided design) was employed to produce a piece of PAD (paper aided design) to make some WAD (wood aided design).
Using some of the old bolt holes to aid alignment
The old bolt holes spaced at 110mm were just right for feeding the wires through and aligning the plinths.
And voila we have a set of lights
Tali and Lyra decided supervising me was far more appealing than going down to the stable with the wife to deal with the horse. The roller shutter was slightly open so I could push the nose out slightly to get to the driver side and they very quickly found a dog bed in the workshop.
To aid in drilling the holes a bit of actual CAD (computer aided design) was employed to produce a piece of PAD (paper aided design) to make some WAD (wood aided design).
Using some of the old bolt holes to aid alignment
The old bolt holes spaced at 110mm were just right for feeding the wires through and aligning the plinths.
And voila we have a set of lights
Tali and Lyra decided supervising me was far more appealing than going down to the stable with the wife to deal with the horse. The roller shutter was slightly open so I could push the nose out slightly to get to the driver side and they very quickly found a dog bed in the workshop.
Absolutely anything is more appealing than going down to the stables to deal with the wife and horses.
Dog, human, doesn't matter. There's always a better choice!
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The bracket appears to actually be factory for another type of LR (perhaps a 2.25 or 2.5 petrol) and it's what the vehicle actually came with. I'd actually be more worried about the wing...
I don't know if it's factory but the wing has been butchered to allow the steering column through. I know the 6x6 was based on a Stage 1 V8 which in turn was basically a LWB series 3 that LR dumped the RRC drive train in but I don't think either of those had power steering as standard so I think it's a Hotspur addition. It'd also had god knows how many engines in it because it should be a carbed 3.5 V8, the V5 says 5.7 diesel, I bought it with a 2.8 I6 diesel from Nissan and now I've "returned it to factory" albeit with a revised 3.5 in the form of an EFI 4.6 but it is the same basic Rover V8 at heart. So I have no clue what's factory or what's been butchered by previous owners.
Regardless that bracket is significantly more substantial than what it's attached to and has survived up until this point. I do have a 300Tdi expansion bottle to replace it with but that was going to require significant work to make it fit (has the benefit you can get a low coolant switch for it) so it was kicked down the road for now.
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The wife gets annoyed occasionally by Tali because she's got the nickname of Shadow. She'll follow me everywhere and takes a lot of convincing to follow anyone else.
She (wife) knows it must be late for their feed time if Tali has left me if I'm not in the house and gone to find her.
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After a morning supervising little brats of the human kind and doing some actual work on the laptop I managed to escape to the workshop in the afternoon. The wiring "loom" inside the chassis to the rear of the vehicle is just a piece of 7-core trailer wire except they've ditched the earth (use the chassis instead) to provide one extra wire for the fuel gauge. So once all the wiring was figured out at that end I nipped down to CLH to acquire a suitable junction box as the one that was there (another Rubbolite thing) had definitely seen better days.
Back home all the original bolt holes for the lights were slightly enlarged to 7.7mm to allow a spade terminal to pass through if needed, all the LED NAS lights then had their wires extended with some soldering and heatshrink and temporarily cable tied along their planned route. Junction box temporarily mounted (I plan on welding another bracket for the other bolt hole in the near future) in the same rough location as the other one with the bolt serving as the earth.
Crimps all added in and wired up and we have a fully functioning set of lights.
The box conveniently has the correct colours for trailer lights and where they should go moulded into the lid. I didn't follow those... The chassis loom had some wires cut short so it was simply a case of they fitted where they fitted and the others were left with a bit of slack.
Then I started investigating the fuel sender... Connected up temporarily the fuel sender to the appropriate cable in the wiring loom with some Wagos, pulled the integrated pump / sender unit slightly of of the tank, finagled an offcut of wire around the float and tied it up. Sod all at the gauge... Bummer, this used to work. Unsurprisingly given the state of the dash it doesn't now. I really hate Series style dashes, especially when people have messed about with them.
@V8 Freak and I had fun when I first got the Sandingham getting various things working due to loose connections etc., and we just happened to make 2+2 equal 5 and get the damn thing working by taking educated guesses at what had fallen off what.
Measuring the resistance at the back of the gauge to ground the sender is working and routed all the way through to the gauge but there's no supply getting to it. The voltage stabiliser looks suspiciously like it's missing at least connection on it but I have no idea where that wire is hiding currently. Supper is calling and I'm seriously considering at this point ripping most of it off and tidying it up. I have luckily found a Stage 1 wiring diagram so that has just been printed off and will be studied and try to interpret the poor quality of the scan.
Although perhaps since the engine side of things works perhaps the next port of call should be sorting out an exhaust and air-filter because they'll probably be a bit time-consuming and are definitely needed. The electrics I can sort out in between the inevitable wait for parts...
Back home all the original bolt holes for the lights were slightly enlarged to 7.7mm to allow a spade terminal to pass through if needed, all the LED NAS lights then had their wires extended with some soldering and heatshrink and temporarily cable tied along their planned route. Junction box temporarily mounted (I plan on welding another bracket for the other bolt hole in the near future) in the same rough location as the other one with the bolt serving as the earth.
Crimps all added in and wired up and we have a fully functioning set of lights.
The box conveniently has the correct colours for trailer lights and where they should go moulded into the lid. I didn't follow those... The chassis loom had some wires cut short so it was simply a case of they fitted where they fitted and the others were left with a bit of slack.
Then I started investigating the fuel sender... Connected up temporarily the fuel sender to the appropriate cable in the wiring loom with some Wagos, pulled the integrated pump / sender unit slightly of of the tank, finagled an offcut of wire around the float and tied it up. Sod all at the gauge... Bummer, this used to work. Unsurprisingly given the state of the dash it doesn't now. I really hate Series style dashes, especially when people have messed about with them.
@V8 Freak and I had fun when I first got the Sandingham getting various things working due to loose connections etc., and we just happened to make 2+2 equal 5 and get the damn thing working by taking educated guesses at what had fallen off what.
Measuring the resistance at the back of the gauge to ground the sender is working and routed all the way through to the gauge but there's no supply getting to it. The voltage stabiliser looks suspiciously like it's missing at least connection on it but I have no idea where that wire is hiding currently. Supper is calling and I'm seriously considering at this point ripping most of it off and tidying it up. I have luckily found a Stage 1 wiring diagram so that has just been printed off and will be studied and try to interpret the poor quality of the scan.
Although perhaps since the engine side of things works perhaps the next port of call should be sorting out an exhaust and air-filter because they'll probably be a bit time-consuming and are definitely needed. The electrics I can sort out in between the inevitable wait for parts...
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So after a morning of getting peed off with various people I thought I better tackle a bit more. I looked at the exhaust, decided that's going to be an **** (getting stuff past the gearbox). Shame I'm skint or I'd love to make it someone else's problem.
Hey ho, back to electrics. I managed to track down the missing wire off the voltage stabiliser and thus some dodgy wiring and getting covered in petrol confirmed the fuel gauge was now working.
So the MIG was relocated down the other end of the workshop (should really make a trolley for it) and some attempted metal gluing later, some drilling and cutting of pipes resulted in the junction box properly mounted and the fuel filter put somewhere more suitable.
Rather than waste precious petrol (since the little one keeps saying its her favourite smell in the world and she "loves the smell of petrol") I tipped the contents of the filter and pipes back into the filler and made a nasty discovery.
****ty paint on the filler neck
. That'll be coming off and chucked in a bath of petrol and/or brake cleaner in the near future.
So electrics wise there's the front lights, wiper, washers left to get working again (they were all working). So keen to see the lights done and dusted I set too at the front end. All old candles screws either unscrewed or finger sanded off. They're all free now so new ones to be installed shortly.
I've also got a spare set of Classic Car LEDs H4 bulbs for the headlights. I've been running these on the 110 and really happy with them. Bit odd having a Series with LEDs but I'm happy to get some decent lights without having to upgrade all the wiring and to be fair (touch wood) in the best part of a decade I've not had a single issue on the 110.
Hey ho, back to electrics. I managed to track down the missing wire off the voltage stabiliser and thus some dodgy wiring and getting covered in petrol confirmed the fuel gauge was now working.
So the MIG was relocated down the other end of the workshop (should really make a trolley for it) and some attempted metal gluing later, some drilling and cutting of pipes resulted in the junction box properly mounted and the fuel filter put somewhere more suitable.
Rather than waste precious petrol (since the little one keeps saying its her favourite smell in the world and she "loves the smell of petrol") I tipped the contents of the filter and pipes back into the filler and made a nasty discovery.
****ty paint on the filler neck
So electrics wise there's the front lights, wiper, washers left to get working again (they were all working). So keen to see the lights done and dusted I set too at the front end. All old candles screws either unscrewed or finger sanded off. They're all free now so new ones to be installed shortly.
I've also got a spare set of Classic Car LEDs H4 bulbs for the headlights. I've been running these on the 110 and really happy with them. Bit odd having a Series with LEDs but I'm happy to get some decent lights without having to upgrade all the wiring and to be fair (touch wood) in the best part of a decade I've not had a single issue on the 110.
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Small win but some dirt wiped off the windscreen.
Small because it was something that used to be working and then wasn't. Only one speed works for now but that's all that it had before. A previous owner(s) has sort of gone through and tried to improve things in the past but it really is a mess of wiring. @V8 Freak freak and I had a satisfactory session basically saying well that's not factory and ripping it out. Once that was done it was more or less back to standard S3 wiring with some extras and left overs.
The wipers for example have a 2 position switch but it flicks a relay so only one speed.
Now to find a horn wire, and a horn...
Small because it was something that used to be working and then wasn't. Only one speed works for now but that's all that it had before. A previous owner(s) has sort of gone through and tried to improve things in the past but it really is a mess of wiring. @V8 Freak freak and I had a satisfactory session basically saying well that's not factory and ripping it out. Once that was done it was more or less back to standard S3 wiring with some extras and left overs.
The wipers for example have a 2 position switch but it flicks a relay so only one speed.
Now to find a horn wire, and a horn...
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Found the horn, got it working albeit it's got a dodgy switch so either it'll free up more or a replacement is on the cards.
Also found the washer wires and got those "working". So electrics wise we're down to front lights which means I need to find my econoseals or order some more
. The washer bottle that it had will also just fit behind the PAS reservoir in the engine bay so that's a win, rather than under the passenger seat.
Just so you lot can be appeased with a picture. The twist lock frame has been removed. Since it's all dry and inside currently the plan is hopefully if the weather dries up to attack the chassis and paint it if I can.
Also found the washer wires and got those "working". So electrics wise we're down to front lights which means I need to find my econoseals or order some more
Just so you lot can be appeased with a picture. The twist lock frame has been removed. Since it's all dry and inside currently the plan is hopefully if the weather dries up to attack the chassis and paint it if I can.
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And we have lights
Old ones basically cut out with a finger sander, after realising the new ones are a Defender fitment (two not three holes).
Cables were cut very close to the light holder (moulded in) and then converted over to econoseal connectors. Then two new 3.5mm holes drilled and for now bolted through the wing. Once things open up after Easter I might try and pick up some of the correct plastic fittings for self tappers.
Washer bottle mounted, everything is getting a bit tight down that side but it's fitting and, I think, going back to more or less factory based on wiring.
And voila we have some water, new jets required though as they appear to be spurting all over the place.
And unfortunately the rear prop is goosed, both UJs are goosed and there's some play in the splines. It's off I started oiling up various nuts and bolts on the axles with the forward thinking of dropping the rear axle off (before I faff with bleeding brakes) so clean up and paint the rear of the chassis. Pleasantly surprised the very long bolts for the top of dampers undid with absolutely no bother and slid out. Someone has copiously covered them in copper slip
Old ones basically cut out with a finger sander, after realising the new ones are a Defender fitment (two not three holes).
Cables were cut very close to the light holder (moulded in) and then converted over to econoseal connectors. Then two new 3.5mm holes drilled and for now bolted through the wing. Once things open up after Easter I might try and pick up some of the correct plastic fittings for self tappers.
Washer bottle mounted, everything is getting a bit tight down that side but it's fitting and, I think, going back to more or less factory based on wiring.
And voila we have some water, new jets required though as they appear to be spurting all over the place.
And unfortunately the rear prop is goosed, both UJs are goosed and there's some play in the splines. It's off I started oiling up various nuts and bolts on the axles with the forward thinking of dropping the rear axle off (before I faff with bleeding brakes) so clean up and paint the rear of the chassis. Pleasantly surprised the very long bolts for the top of dampers undid with absolutely no bother and slid out. Someone has copiously covered them in copper slip
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As one can probably tell by the small sledge hammer the other bolts on the rear axle aren't playing ball as nicely.
Nut comes off easily enough but the bolt is seized solid in the bush. I think this answers my question, I will leave the suspension attached for the moment...
I may see if the u bolt nuts undo easily enough and if so might drop the axle that way or just leave it attached and try and clean up what I can (should be able to do at least the top and sides at a minimum).
Nut comes off easily enough but the bolt is seized solid in the bush. I think this answers my question, I will leave the suspension attached for the moment...
I may see if the u bolt nuts undo easily enough and if so might drop the axle that way or just leave it attached and try and clean up what I can (should be able to do at least the top and sides at a minimum).
