2004 Diesel Freelander, yay or nay ?

[Robotstar5]

One thing to watch on the TD4 is the crankcase breather filter, I think it collapses and blocks, but there's plenty of modification kits out there.

 

[Barking Mat]

One thing to watch on the TD4 is the crankcase breather filter, I think it collapses and blocks, but there's plenty of modification kits out there.

Mainly window and door handle issues I believe.

Yep, crankcase breather will get changed along with a complete service.

I've been watching those vids...

 

[Blobber]

So I'm collecting it tomorrow, hired a 3.5t van with ramps and winch on the back, rated at 1350kgs, Freelander weighs 1550, so marginally overweight, but I can't see that being an issue, going to drop it off at the works workshop, as there's the local, bored, retired, incredibly knowledgable, ex village mechanic / garage owner, who is frankly on a par with the knowledge base on this forum, dunno if he knows auto Freelanders though ?

Pics tomorrow unless what I'm told doesn't correspond to what I'm going to get, it's costing me purchase price just to go fetch it.

So, I'll be ranting if the blokes telling fibs.

Excellent a road trip!

 

[minimutly]

So, I've just been watching some YouTube reviews, if it's 2004, it's a TD4, BMW engine, timing chain, with none of the other issues associated with the other engines, 2 litre 109 or some such horsies, and apparently it's not unusual to lose the clutch at 100k miles, which surprised me.

Detuned, cheap version of the BMW engine. Lucky for you no clutch in a Jatco auto...
Rear window drops when closing the hatch, sometimes never come up...
I would have the V6 facelift, ditch the 4wd nonsense, stick a turbo under there...

 

[Bobupndown]

I would have the V6 facelift, ditch the 4wd nonsense, stick a turbo under there.

And shares in BP

 

[addjunkie]

And shares in BP

I have shares in BP and wouldn't touch it with yours.

 

[minimutly]

Lads, you can't take it with you, and one day all you'll be able to drive will be battery powered squeeling characterless boxes...

 

[addjunkie]

I quite like my 300 HP when I want to make a quick getaway at the lights, etc.

Sadly many battery boxes will be quicker!

 

[Barking Mat]

Detuned, cheap version of the BMW engine. Lucky for you no clutch in a Jatco auto...
Rear window drops when closing the hatch, sometimes never come up...
I would have the V6 facelift, ditch the 4wd nonsense, stick a turbo under there...

No clutch ? Please explain.

 

[wyn]

No clutch ? Please explain.

Automatic.....no clutch just a torque convertor between engine and auto box.

 

[Barking Mat]

Automatic.....no clutch just a torque convertor between engine and auto box.

Hmmm.

Anyway, I drove 200kms met two brothers who were english, really nice guys, they didn't have a suitable battery, started first time, little bit of white smoke, it hadn't run for over three months, and it's damp over here, loaded, checked for rust, one tiny bit I spotted. Front bonnet had a nasty spray paint job, rear window goes up and down, all doors open and close. Had a full service, two front tyres, drove home to works workshop, unloaded it. Was in a hurry to take hire vehicle back, forgot to take photos, Doh !

So where do I start the diagnosis ? Please.

Thanks as ever.

 

[roofman]

Hmmm.

Anyway, I drove 200kms met two brothers who were english, really nice guys, they didn't have a suitable battery, started first time, little bit of white smoke, it hadn't run for over three months, and it's damp over here, loaded, checked for rust, one tiny bit I spotted. Front bonnet had a nasty spray paint job, rear window goes up and down, all doors open and close. Had a full service, two front tyres, drove home to works workshop, unloaded it. Was in a hurry to take hire vehicle back, forgot to take photos, Doh !

So where do I start the diagnosis ? Please.

Thanks as ever.

1st thing is check gearbox fluid...brown and smelly not good, still red better. get yourself a good diagnostic pad and start pressing buttons

 

[Barking Mat]

1st thing is check gearbox fluid...brown and smelly not good, still red better. get yourself a good diagnostic pad and start pressing buttons

I've got one of those basic OBD boxes, which talks to your phone ?

Any use ? I've never had much success with it frankly.

 

[minimutly]

Hmmm.

Anyway, I drove 200kms met two brothers who were english, really nice guys, they didn't have a suitable battery, started first time, little bit of white smoke, it hadn't run for over three months, and it's damp over here, loaded, checked for rust, one tiny bit I spotted. Front bonnet had a nasty spray paint job, rear window goes up and down, all doors open and close. Had a full service, two front tyres, drove home to works workshop, unloaded it. Was in a hurry to take hire vehicle back, forgot to take photos, Doh !

So where do I start the diagnosis ? Please.

Thanks as ever.

There's something called an IRD, sits on the side of the gearbox - on the manual cars this houses the diff if I recall? As well as the bevel gear for the rwd (which usually wears out due to farmers using these to tow cattle boxes). Its a strange affair with drive to the IRD going in on the outside shaft, and the output of the front diff coming back on another shaft inside the first one. It may be the autobox is ok, but the IRD is toast...
I have no idea if this applies the same on autos as manual, or how to diagnose it....

 

[reb78]

Such a shame you arent at all local. I bought a Hawkeye Total a year or two before Bearmach dissapeared and it reads most LR models to a decent level inc Freelander 1.

 

[Barking Mat]

There's something called an IRD, sits on the side of the gearbox - on the manual cars this houses the diff if I recall? As well as the bevel gear for the rwd (which usually wears out due to farmers using these to tow cattle boxes). Its a strange affair with drive to the IRD going in on the outside shaft, and the output of the front diff coming back on another shaft inside the first one. It may be the autobox is ok, but the IRD is toast...
I have no idea if this applies the same on autos as manual, or how to diagnose it....

Rear prop was removed by previous x2 owner, can't imagine that's IRD, has anything to do with it not moving.

 

[Barking Mat]

Intermediate reduction drive, for anyone like me wondering what's an IRD.

 

[OJCar]

I spoke to a friend who used to love his Frogloader 1
He suggested Bell Engineering to give you an idea of what to look for.
https://www.bellengineering.co.uk/fault-symptoms

 

[Blobber]

We've waited all this time and no picture!

 

[Smallfry]

There's something called an IRD, sits on the side of the gearbox - on the manual cars this houses the diff if I recall? As well as the bevel gear for the rwd (which usually wears out due to farmers using these to tow cattle boxes). Its a strange affair with drive to the IRD going in on the outside shaft, and the output of the front diff coming back on another shaft inside the first one. It may be the autobox is ok, but the IRD is toast...
I have no idea if this applies the same on autos as manual, or how to diagnose it....

Autobox is the same setup, but as the propshaft has been removed, it should not affect the front wheels

First step in diagnosis is, is it manual or auto. How many pedals are there ?

If it is, in fact manual. An OBD scanner will not tell you anything about the clutch.

I have got a Foxwell scanner for these. Welcome to borrow if you pay the postage. I want it back though.