New to me - Colchester Triumph

[dan.taylor.1]

Centre slit with a slitting disc

Vandal

 

[minimutly]

That's ok, a lot of bigger lathes just have a tee slot in the compound slide for the toolpost, it doesn't NEED to be that huge great lump of a centre post. You'd get away with a simple stud for a QCTP, as long as it's flat to the deck then it will be rigid.

This is exactly what my Triumph has - you can quickly angle the toolpost to suite the job and the tool. Would like a qtp for it though, but that size they are expensive...

 

[Lewis_RX8]

That's the toolpost and compound slide rebuilt and wow what a difference turning it really smooth dovetail slid in on an oil slick where as when I was taking it apart I needed a rubber mallet.

Can easily turn one handed nice and accurate and gibs nipped up gives a little more resistance but still real smooth.

Now in oil and paper to keep crap off it and stop surface rust while I get the cross slide and maybe apron sorted as cross slide is quite free at the moment but apron is really stiff moving by hand not sure why.

 

[Hood]

Capto - Please explain,I'm lost relatively new to this game
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Did a quick vid to show the capto tooling and how easy it is to swap out.

 

[MattF]

What is it with some folk on here. Not happy unless tempting us with stuff we didn't know about, but now want?

 

[Lewis_RX8]

Did a quick vid to show the capto tooling and how easy it is to swap out.

Looks really handy and quick for production work

What is it with some folk on here. Not happy unless tempting us with stuff we didn't know about, but now want?

Put it so well

 

[Hood]

What is it with some folk on here. Not happy unless tempting us with stuff we didn't know about, but now want?

In all honesty I don't think it takes much to tempt you

 

[dan.taylor.1]

That's the toolpost and compound slide rebuilt and wow what a difference turning it really smooth dovetail slid in on an oil slick where as when I was taking it apart I needed a rubber mallet.

Can easily turn one handed nice and accurate and gibs nipped up gives a little more resistance but still real smooth.

Now in oil and paper to keep crap off it and stop surface rust while I get the cross slide and maybe apron sorted as cross slide is quite free at the moment but apron is really stiff moving by hand not sure why.

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Check the carriage lock isn't on a bit. It's a square head stud on the front, tailstock end of the apron. Actuates a tapered bit underneath against the vee way.

 

[Lewis_RX8]

Check the carriage lock isn't on a bit. It's a square head stud on the front, tailstock end of the apron. Actuates a tapered bit underneath against the vee way.

Not following you there , opposite side to the gibs

This grub screw? Thought that holds in the thread nut

 

[Hood]

He is meaning the apron being stiff as you wind along the Z axis to and from the chuck. On the top of the saddle there will be a square head bolt which locks the saddle on the ways.

 

[Hood]

 

[Lewis_RX8]

He is meaning the apron being stiff as you wind along the Z axis to and from the chuck. On the top of the saddle there will be a square head bolt which locks the saddle on the ways.

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Funnily enough just in from the garage messing about thinking hmm what does this bolt do then tah dah it lined up with the handwheel and all of a sudden it was free

Thanks for that , plenty more to learn about it I think but that's all my slides now really smooth so perfect

 

[dan.taylor.1]

Yep that's what I meant, should have done as hood did and post the parts diagram! Funnily enough, mine doesn't work, won't lock up at all so it needs stripped down.

 

[Hood]

..Funnily enough, mine doesn't work, won't lock up at all so it needs stripped down.

Most likely muck between part 12 and the saddle which stops it pulling up enough. If it is worn, which I think unlikely unless some monkey has been power feeding with it locked, then you may have to skim a bit off the top of part 12.

 

[Agroshield]

Most likely muck between part 12 and the saddle which stops it pulling up enough. If it is worn, which I think unlikely unless some monkey has been power feeding with it locked, then you may have to skim a bit off the top of part 12.

Check as well that the washer under the square-headed bolt is the correct thickness. If the washer is too thin, the unthreaded part of the bolt may jam up on the top of the threads in 12 stopping it clamping properly.

An alternative is to build up the lower part - dismantle, clean, tighten and check the gap with a feeler gauge. Glue on the next size up feeler gauge.

You can fine tune the washer thickness so that whatever wrench you put on the square-headed bolt faces the correct direction when the clamp is open or closed.

 

[Lewis_RX8]

Time for an update here

Firsr rolled the cabinet outside on a pallet with wheels and jacked up then soaked in degreaser and pressure washed to get all the muck off , also a lot of the top layer of lighter green paint flaked off with the pressure washer and revealed this darker green so think I will look to see if i can buy that colour to redo some of it as paint job looks even worse now its about 5 colours lol

Claned cabinet inside and rolled in front of its final home , I really like the gold letters on the triumph bit and as I said far too many colours showing here but its all clean and a good suface

Pushed bed in front of cabinet on pallet with castors then rigged up with the lifting strap taking the weight and the rachet straps just stopping it pivoting not doing any real lifting

Then the bed lowered on and bolted down through 4 bolts on each side and headstock rigged up avoiding the spindle , again rachet strap taking no real weight just stops it pivoting round the lifting strap

The first time I have seen it all together and really impressed, nothing aligned properly yet still needs motor in but will hopefully sort that out today. Then gap bed needs some bolts as the previous owner lost them , toolpost is rebuilt ready to go the cross slide is cleaned but in bits on the bench so that needs put back together but was just full attack on actually assembling the lathe last night.

Not a huge amount to test at the moment but thought could check this , looks good cant post the video here but seems at least under half a micron of runout cant really measure it with my gear only got down to 0.01mm so might get some tenths indiactors or something

 

[minimutly]

Liked this, and good to see one in bits. This is what I should have done with mine.
Once all my other machines are sorted the Triumph is coming apart. Maybe @pressbrake1 will have his planer up and running by then.....

 

[fizzy]

Love seeing it all coming together.
Silly I know but even after shipping perhaps 1/2 a million pallets I still take pride in a job going right.

 

[Agroshield]

Not a huge amount to test at the moment...

Before you use it in anger, check the Trav-a-Dial is adjusted properly, so that when it says 10mm, it has moved 10mm. Even more so if you end up removing or disturbing it during the clean up. The wheel on it is like a tour de France bicycle tyre, such that its rolling circumference changes depending on what angle it is presented to the 'road'.

 

[Lewis_RX8]

Fabricated this hook to let me jack the lathe flush to the floor as it was sitting on bricks as can be seen so I could get a trolley jack under however for final lifting operation needs to come right down to slide on some steel and there is a recess in the cabinet for this hook to grab onto.

So was jack up remove brick then jack down remove wood from under jack and cabinet then finally jacking down to flush on the concrete.

Also hydraulics where needed to ram this bloody motor tray pivot bar really snug fit and after 60 years was even snugger so would have had arthritis by the time I was finished with the puller in the background so a nice steady porta power ram used again.



And some extra interesting bits of history here , First discovered the RAF base story is true that is where it was originally from as can see the broad arrow stamped with a number to the bottom right on thjelathe bed

Then some 1960s writing on the switch and contactor box detailing the order specifics in chalk maybe
not so easy to make out on photo but says about

440
WAR
OFFICE
MECHANIC
CLUTCH
SEVEN
INCH

and on the back is TWO SPEED and something else hard to make out
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Love seeing it all coming together.
Silly I know but even after shipping perhaps 1/2 a million pallets I still take pride in a job going right.

Must be doing something right getting to that number anyway

Before you use it in anger, check the Trav-a-Dial is adjusted properly, so that when it says 10mm, it has moved 10mm. Even more so if you end up removing or disturbing it during the clean up. The wheel on it is like a tour de France bicycle tyre, such that its rolling circumference changes depending on what angle it is presented to the 'road'.

I didn't know this could be adjusted, thanks