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8ob
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As Mick Flanagan points out, the only reason the French eat snails is because its the only thing they can catch.
Bob
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Aye, déjà vu all over again
What's French for déjà vu ?
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Electrical question folks.
Does anyone know the regs regarding have a metal box consumer unit instead of a plastic one?
It's a proper metal consumer unit, like you get in workshops, but not houses?
To go in the house, well back shed, 3ph and all.
Thanks.
Does anyone know the regs regarding have a metal box consumer unit instead of a plastic one?
It's a proper metal consumer unit, like you get in workshops, but not houses?
To go in the house, well back shed, 3ph and all.
Thanks.
8ob
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Cant help you on that one Mat, I do know the regs that side of the immigrants paddling pool are different to here.
All my three phase consumer units are steel.
Bob.
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When I first got here, I picked up a book on the local regs from Mr. Bricolage. Can't put my finger on it right now, but don't think there is anything about 3 ph. There is a much thicker up to date guide, might be worth getting that.
KF
depends, if you'fe following the "consuel" or not, if you are, then the regs define that the house needs a GTL " Gaine Technique Logement", which is basically a consumer unit (and all the telecomms interconnections) on top of a floor to ceiling trunking, so would be plastic as far as I can see. Regs are also pretty specific on where it can be installed, not in kitchens, maximum distance from the incomer meter box, height from the floor etc.... I'll check with my sparky mate tommorrow to confirm.
that said when I did mine for the workshop 3phase, I had a whole new line installed so the consuel was obligatory to get the power on, so to avoid rsing about with the paperwork I just got the local sparks to put it in, and they've used a metal box consumer unit, so probably ok for an outbuilding or workshop, but I'd be wary of using it for a house...
My workshop board 3Ph
that said when I did mine for the workshop 3phase, I had a whole new line installed so the consuel was obligatory to get the power on, so to avoid rsing about with the paperwork I just got the local sparks to put it in, and they've used a metal box consumer unit, so probably ok for an outbuilding or workshop, but I'd be wary of using it for a house...
My workshop board 3Ph
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I have some friends who live in the Limousin area, in a bakers oven. Well, they bought the land with the great big bread oven on it, and basically extended and built it into a cracking little bungalow.
They showed me their consumer unit one day, with about fifty breakers on it. Apparently every socket, every light etc, has to have its on wires running back to the CU, with it’s own breaker.
Sounds clever, in theory, but even in their little one bedroom, one living room, one kitchen house there was miles of wire.
aye, exactly, mainly because they won't allow ring circuits for sockets, has to be radial. Then they limit the number of sockets, depending on whether it's a 16A or a 20 A circuit... problem with that is you run out of sockets pretty qucickly so more breakers needed. Then they have what they call specialist circuits, which are like washing machines, tumble driers etc, one circuit per appliance.... had to split mine out to one board for upstairs and one for down stairs.... should have taken shares out in HAGER when I did it..... when I compare it to my old mans house still with rewirable fuses, I have to just shake my head at this nonsense over here.......
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It's not quite that bad. You're allowed 6 or 8 sockets (can't remember exactly) per 20A spur/MCB, and a slightly smaller number of lights per 16A spur/MCB. But as MCKDAVID says, certain appliances with a heavier current draw (electric cooker, washing machine, immersion heater etc.) require a dedicated spur/MCB. Can't really argue with that.
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That's very smart.
I'm still on the 'first fit'
I appreciate the consuel stuff, and as someone pointed out earlier, I don't need one, except if we sell the house, or it burns down (insurance).
It was an existing installation, which I'm slowly replacing.
I'd better order the French electrical regs manual, I guess.
Or phone a sparky.
Shame I don't know any...
whats French for Duck?
I was once sat outside a Pub (before a Wednesday match) and across the road was a little lane called SOUTH VIEW....underneath the sign it said CUL-DE-SAC......I heard some one say "Whats Cul de Sac mean" and another bloke say "Its obviously french for South View"....I didnt say anything
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wasnt itCanard, Del. You can say that again, Rodney
Del...Whats french for Duck
Rodders.......Canard
Del.........I know it is but whats french for duck
If not, it shouldve been
my kids loved this......can we have some ****** Dad
https://www.thetraveltart.com/funny-drink-packaging-french-lemonade/
https://www.thetraveltart.com/funny-drink-packaging-french-lemonade/
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Ive not seen that lemonade in years.
Used to make us giggle as kids.
Bizarrely enough that same word (slang) spelt thé english way refers to a class B drug some sort of resin derived from hemp type plants..
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Going back to les electriques, the ring main in UK was adopted to save on copper, post war. But I have to laugh a bit whe the EU had a go at the UK for having the three pin plugs with fuses and rectangular pins as 'not in keeping with the EU norms. Yer Right.... Spain a and Portugal use what T think is a German standard, France use another and Italy yet one more. No wonder the sellers of travel adapters do quite well.
With the branch system, it is at leas easier to find faults. If the diff trips, one puts all the trips off and gradually turn them on until the diff trips again, then chase down what's on that circuit.
A French Frend has this ancient pile that has been in the familly since 1640.. And while the electrics don't date from then, they are pretty crude and I frequently have to find out which part of the house is causing the current problem. Luckily there are quite a lot of breakers, so can quickly find the zone. Curing the whole lot is something I don't want to contemplate.
Our gaff had wiring which was rubber coated and fabric wrapped in the older bits. plenty of copper on view
Like Matt, I am just getting on with it, with an eye on the French Norms; Four different distribution boards for the various bits of the house, so far...
The inspection, if you want to sell, is advisory, unless something risky. So could be used as a bargining chip in the sale.
The thermal efficiency estimate is based on your electrical consumption in the past months, not the insulation of the house So, some friends cut their electrical use right down for the period before they put it on the market. Don't know how much that influenced the sale, but they got a good price quickly...
Nice sunny day here, but looking at showers tomorrow. So railings in the W/shop. Bread and butter stuff. Just finished the details on the engine swop on a 30 ft yacht in La Rochelle. Owner in UK and not been able to visite for quite a while, maybe late next year? Plus is, he says I can use it any time I like. Things could be worse.
With the branch system, it is at leas easier to find faults. If the diff trips, one puts all the trips off and gradually turn them on until the diff trips again, then chase down what's on that circuit.
A French Frend has this ancient pile that has been in the familly since 1640.. And while the electrics don't date from then, they are pretty crude and I frequently have to find out which part of the house is causing the current problem. Luckily there are quite a lot of breakers, so can quickly find the zone. Curing the whole lot is something I don't want to contemplate.
Our gaff had wiring which was rubber coated and fabric wrapped in the older bits. plenty of copper on view
Like Matt, I am just getting on with it, with an eye on the French Norms; Four different distribution boards for the various bits of the house, so far...The inspection, if you want to sell, is advisory, unless something risky. So could be used as a bargining chip in the sale.
The thermal efficiency estimate is based on your electrical consumption in the past months, not the insulation of the house So, some friends cut their electrical use right down for the period before they put it on the market. Don't know how much that influenced the sale, but they got a good price quickly...
Nice sunny day here, but looking at showers tomorrow. So railings in the W/shop. Bread and butter stuff. Just finished the details on the engine swop on a 30 ft yacht in La Rochelle. Owner in UK and not been able to visite for quite a while, maybe late next year? Plus is, he says I can use it any time I like. Things could be worse.
