Worth Looking at a centec 2A?

  1. Rannsachair

    Rannsachair Forum Supporter

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    Hi folks every so often i look at getting a small mill, and saw this come up on Gumtree not too far away from me: https://www.gumtree.com/p/other-pow...ment-co.-centec-2a-milling-machine/1335119598

    Currently i just use a milling vice attachment on my ML7 [​IMG] and this would certainly give more capacity. Space is very limited and will need a major reorganisation of my garage even for this.

    After some advice -

    Does it seem a reasonable buy? the seller assures me its in perfect condition.

    Anything to look out for?

    I was looking at Dore Westbury's - would this be a better machine.

    I would be using it mainly for small motorcycle parts, making small jigs etc.

    Thanks.
     
  2. Dieselkid 63

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    That looks lovely. It wouldn't last long at that price here.

    A significant bonus is you get a lot of tooling with it, and it looks like it's been cared for. I vote buy.
     
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  3. gaz1

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    look up dor westbury on the forums some go for a right price but all depends on if you get extrss as well

    for me buying an older model at a nice price i can do the adaptiins for it

    your area is worse for buying certain tools at the right price
     
  4. brewdexta

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    Go for it, easily worth it with all that tooling
     
  5. slim_boy_fat

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    If you can ''sensibly' reorganise to accommodate it, I'd say go for it - all the tooling and bits that come with it are worth a good bit on their own.
     
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  6. MattF

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    As the others have said, just the included tooling alone is a good few bobs worth, & that machine looks tidy.
     
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  7. gaz1

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    ive pmed yiu some references so take a look
     
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  8. rikrobson

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    It's well worth it at that price.

    Dont dither or you will loose it.
     
  9. Arc Tourist

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    I would say don't hesitate, go for it !
    It has the very desirable Mark 3 vertical head which alone is worth the price.

    The Dore Westbury mills were sold as a kit, and required the purchaser to machine some of the parts to build it, so quality can vary.
     
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  10. Rannsachair

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    Deposit paid :)
     
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  11. gaz1

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    all i can say is if you get that tool box as well with all tools in it and milling machine its as close to a looked after machine

    just check for wear on the machine but do expect some wear due to its age
     
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  12. Arc Tourist

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    I don't think you will be disappointed, its both a vertical and horizontal mill which is highly sought after by model engineering enthusiasts. By the look of it, it has been restored and very well cared for. :) Although not shown in the photos, there should be an overarm support arm for the horizontal arbor with it.

    Have a look on the ……. " lathes.co.uk " website, scroll down the page and click on Centec, where you will find a wealth of information about the machine and accessories there.
     
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  13. Rannsachair

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    Well spotted I have emailed photo's to make sure it is looked out. I have had a good look at the photo's on lathes.c.o.uk, looks quite a heavy little machine.
     
  14. Rannsachair

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    The seller does not know anything about metal working machines, but had a friend who is an engineer look at them, he also has an ML7 for sale with lots of parts https://www.gumtree.com/p/lathes/myford-7-lathe-with-very-extensive-collection-of-tooling/1334991630 - As I have an ML7 I had a look at the photo's of the parts he is selling with it and there are a few I do not recognise, anyone with any Centec knowledge know if any of the parts with the lathe look like they belong the Centec?

    Thanks
     
  15. fizzy Forum Supporter

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    That is a stunning machine - looks like the poor bloke who passed away really looked after his stuff. I bet he would be very pleased to know it is going to a good home! I would love that myself!

    When I bought my Colchester Triumph for £300 the bloke said I could have everything else as he had to move out. He was a retired toolmaker and said he would rather give it away to someone who appreciated it than sell it to some idiot who might scrap it. That is how I acquired my Elliot Sturdimill and 10M shaper!
     
  16. Arc Tourist

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    On page 8 at the bottom of the photo, there may be draw bars for mill's vertical head ?
    On page 5 at the left of the photo, there appears to be a keyless chuck, which " if " the MT2 arbor on it has a threaded top piece (?), it would have been used for both mill & lathe.
     
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  17. mm289 Member

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    Can't see anything in the ML7 box that looks 2a ish. As said above that is a steal at that price, the adjustable vertical head is very sought after and worth the price on its own. Also looks like some nice milling tools with it:clapping:

    The arbour for the horizontal milling is in pic 4 and it looks like the drawbars are in pic 3.

    They are a great small mill and actually don't weigh a lot. You can take the vertical head off quite easily (4 bolts loosened and slides of the dovetails) and it is then a very easy two man lift, goes in the boot of a car etc.

    Here is a pic of mine before it was stripped to scrape in the beds and replace the head bearings. Also got a VFD and 3 phase motor to fit, it has a small single phase which won't run up the vertical mill at high speeds.

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    If you need any more pics ping me but it looks like it just needs plugging in and start making chips:thumbup:

    Cheers,

    Paul.
     
  18. Rannsachair

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    Excellent, it will be massive upgrade to the ML7 Milling attachment, though I have not used a proper Mill for over 30 years - Bridgeport. I have already been thinking making a raising block for the horizontal head would be fun to do on the machine it is for.
     
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  19. julianthegypsy Member

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    I had one of these, and sadly had to sell it when my back packed up. Cracking bit of kit!
     
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  20. grim_d

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    I'm sad I missed that, just up the road from me.

    Good amount of tooling with it too by the looks of it. My gear never comes with anything!

    Good buy, enjoy it!
     
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