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@Wightsparks how do they compare? Is the non-automotive Pico good enough for your needs?
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Have to say that so far yes it is. You need to be a bit more careful as it is not so well protected, also the automotive one has floating earths which is useful. It is (unofficially) possible to use the automotive software with it but not the waveform database. The extras would be nice and 4 channels vs the 2 I have would be nice too, but the cost difference is over £1000 
- great if you are earning a living with it but just for learning not justified IMO.
- great if you are earning a living with it but just for learning not justified IMO.
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@Wightsparks it's definitely something on my list! 
Ah, that's a shame, but good that Amazon takes it back anyway
How much would the protector / bat holder cost me?
Do you have access to a printer at all? I'm happy to stick the STL on thingiverse (or you could grab it from my onshape account) - will add link when I get back home.
Issue is that the 3d printer is at work, and I don't pay consumables etc, so I can't sell the bits, obviously, and I also don't know if it'd be right to block access for other hobbyists at work to print bits for other people, if that makes sense.
For me, in terms of work compliance, it'd be much easier if someone else printed it - I don't mind if they make a few bobs out of it
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Do you have access to a printer at all? I'm happy to stick the STL on thingiverse (or you could grab it from my onshape account) - will add link when I get back home.
Issue is that the 3d printer is at work, and I don't pay consumables etc, so I can't sell the bits, obviously, and I also don't know if it'd be right to block access for other hobbyists at work to print bits for other people, if that makes sense.
For me, in terms of work compliance, it'd be much easier if someone else printed it - I don't mind if they make a few bobs out of it
Not got one yet but I keep getting the urge.
Just dont want to buy one & find its a pain to set up & use as lots of reviews seem that way.
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It outputs to the oscilloscope so you add the extra dimension of time, just like the benefits of an oscilloscope over a voltmeter.
I did this test with voltage on the fuel rain and current to the injectors measured with the amp clamp. https://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/threads/erwin-the-x-type.94441/page-9#post-1466662
I did this test with voltage on the fuel rain and current to the injectors measured with the amp clamp. https://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/threads/erwin-the-x-type.94441/page-9#post-1466662
An AC or DC clamp-on ammeter will just read the value of the current, in Amps. This clamp-on probe converts the current to a voltage, and the displays it on an oscilloscope. So rather than just a value in Amps, it can show the shape of a varying waveform, at up to 20 KHz, and it does this without having to cut or connect to the wire.
Hi Wrightsparks
Nice thread. I've been using the 2000 series Pico for my automotive needs as and when I've needed one and it's been fine. I have a Hantek clamp and am currently waiting for a 5v step-down transformer to arrive to complete a home made pressure transducer. Yesterday I was working on a CAN Bus Network and discovered that my supposedly Hantek 4mm banana leads were causing me to see a bad signal on the scope. I'm not sure whether it's because there is no attenuation whatsoever on the leads or whether it's down to their 3 meter length and poor shrouding. I switched to the 1 meter Pico leads that came with the scope and discovered the CAN signal to be healthy. There are switchable attenuators (x1/x10)on the Pico leads that I had to adjust when initially setting up the scope and the leads feel like they have woven shrouding rather than the foil shrouding on the Hanteks. Anyway, my question is, what's involved in using the Pico Automotive software with the 2000 series? Is there a hack that works and where would I find more info?
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Interesting, I have not had any issues with the Hantek leads, but I'll watch out for it.
This is an interesting video on using the 2204 Pico for automotive work
You will also find the comments useful, especially replies to the second comment.
This is an interesting video on using the 2204 Pico for automotive work
You will also find the comments useful, especially replies to the second comment.
Thanks I hadn't seen that one and it provides an ideal lock-down pastime
