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In the 3rd pic, what's caused the insulation damage to the white wire?, heat from the dogs dinner joint or abrasion.
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I don't know as yet, unsurprisingly it's not as straightforward as just the powerbox connections. There seems to have been quite a bit of fiddling about with the wiring behind the headlamp, and I have my doubts about the bar switch set up too.
In the third pick you can see where some wires were 'spliced' (stripped and twisted) then cut off and taped over. Wiring diagrams are of limited use as it's been messed with, so I'll just need to trace things around and see where the magical mystery tour takes me.
Once it's sorted for lighting I need to get it running to see if it's actually charging. With the wires showing heat damage, dodgy & incorrect connections and odd splices I'm not hopeful. Still, the meter's running.
Just use all the same colour - when you make it, you run wire from connector to connector, so it's easy to do. If you want to really help, use masking tape looped around each wire and write on some form of ID in a pen type that partically fades at least.Change the colours of a couple of wires inside the harness to give someone a headache fault finding 20 years down the line
Then it'll be even more annoying that the Id was once there, but now . ..
The same colour wires (all black) are exactly what Meta did when installing bike alarms 20 years ago. Then attach the other end ‘somewhere’, ensuring continuous work for someone like @Cato
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I think most aftermarket alarm/immobiliser manufacturers used all black wires, at least it keeps @Cato busy
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TBH I'm kept busy by the shaved monkeys fitting them and working on the electrics rather than anything to do with the wiring or kit fitted.I think most aftermarket alarm/immobiliser manufacturers used all black wires, at least it keeps @Cato busy
So many times/things you hear this alarm, that lighting or whatever are rubbish/unreliable, then you see the bodge locks, solder, twisted wires, random supply spliced into etc. and realise that the alarm, tracker, ecu, LED controller or whatever aren't where the problem lies. The people who work in tech support/warranty for Boyer etc must spend most of their day sobbing in a corner.
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That's probably to make them more difficult to bypass.
All black wiring is a requirement for Thatcham approved alarms.I think most aftermarket alarm/immobiliser manufacturers used all black wires, at least it keeps @Cato busy
There used to be plenty non-approved alarms that used coloured wiring.
I once a few hours fitting a non-approved alarm with coloured wiring to a Defender, to then be told the idiots in the office had given me the wrong alarm, so then spent the following day fitting an all black wire approved alarm.
Very much a case of double checking the wire before cutting it to length!
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Starting the rebuild, 19 mm now so back to what I would expect
Need to get the correct colour of the external Gelcoat but that is USA only so owner is happy to take boat back and I can continue over the winter.
Need to get the correct colour of the external Gelcoat but that is USA only so owner is happy to take boat back and I can continue over the winter.
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Just incase anyone is interested, the large lump on the pitman arm is to reduce vibration on acceleration
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That genuinely is interesting.
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Not actually in the workshop, quick site visit to give this a pre season service
Only required oils and filters this time
Only required oils and filters this time
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John Carpenter, of Mistral Engineering , always used to refer to it as ' Defective Owner Syndrome'.....TBH I'm kept busy by the shaved monkeys fitting them and working on the electrics rather than anything to do with the wiring or kit fitted.
So many times/things you hear this alarm, that lighting or whatever are rubbish/unreliable, then you see the bodge locks, solder, twisted wires, random supply spliced into etc. and realise that the alarm, tracker, ecu, LED controller or whatever aren't where the problem lies. The people who work in tech support/warranty for Boyer etc must spend most of their day sobbing in a corner.
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It's always been a thing, but it's definitely way more prevalent since the advent of YouTube. I think the mayhem is also made worse by the progressive decline in the teaching of basic hand skills, poor crimping, stripped bolts/nuts, inaccurate cutting, poor spatial awareness, basic bracket fabrication and so on.
Watching a video covering which bit to take off or put on without the underpinning knowledge/skill rarely ends well. Sure the specific task may be something a third year apprentice would be capable of, but that apprentice would have had the previous two years building up to it, likely along with a couple of years at school in metalwork and woodwork.
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Just had a bloke ring up who has an accessory junction box that he wants to be powered by an ignition on feed. He said it's got a datatool alarm and his mechanic didn't want to do it in case he cut the wrong wire.
It's a motorbike not a nuclear warhead, what did he think was going to happen?
The best thing you could do to a Datatool alarm is cut ALL of the wires. I've had to personally remove three failed ones from different bikes.
