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@James1979 he does have (at least) another one) and is busy chopping down trees and general tree surgery. This particular one is narrow for getting through peoples houses to the back garden.
@Brad93 yes I think a fixing or two is in order, a couple of dowels or screws.
@mtt.tr yes I am planning to set it up properly tomorrow and if I don't hear back from Viktor, just weld up the keyway, turn down the end, tell him he needs a smaller taper lock (or maybe order it myself).
@Brad93 yes I think a fixing or two is in order, a couple of dowels or screws.
@mtt.tr yes I am planning to set it up properly tomorrow and if I don't hear back from Viktor, just weld up the keyway, turn down the end, tell him he needs a smaller taper lock (or maybe order it myself).
Oh OK. You mentioned a figure of £20-£40 earlier. 'Thinking time' sort of counts, in summation.
As to the 'he can pay me what he thinks the repair is worth'. Well, I learned many years back that that approach is no good at all. They will take advantage, either with malice or not, just a lack of knowledge.
E.g. I spent 2 full days welding up a 'friend's' rusty classic car in the 1990s. I assumed they sort of knew the sort of costs involved here for this kind of work, and that I would be very much cheaper, as an 'enthusiast' (aka a 'MUG welder').
She gave me £20! Her boyfriend seemed to feel guilty later, and topped it up to £60.
Been there, enough times to know better, and it hasn't happened for a while now...
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I would expect someone who does this sort of thing for a living to zip it up with a string of weld, turn it down, job done.
Since I dip in and out of so many different random types of work, my thinking time doesn’t count.
If I can get by doing odd jobs like this, I find it much more interesting than say, doing one thing really well just for the money.
I must admit, I struggle to do simple repetitive work.
Since I dip in and out of so many different random types of work, my thinking time doesn’t count.
If I can get by doing odd jobs like this, I find it much more interesting than say, doing one thing really well just for the money.
I must admit, I struggle to do simple repetitive work.
No challenge no fun. That's why I have a number of nearly finished jobs.....
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“My gut feeling is he wants a cheap and quick repair that keeps it going. Yes it could be "perfect" for circa £200 but it might also be "good enough" for the £20-£40 range I am looking at. Whatever happens, it needs to be his decision and he's not answering the phone currently.”
Plain and simply put, your £20 -£40 repair will come back to haunt you. correct technical term is “Turd polishing” Walk away and let the guy think you an idiot,rather than doing a bodge job and confirming his suspicion....Mark my words, this will not end well. Those machines are brutal,and the slightest deviation from straight and true will end with the machine vandalising itself to death.
Plain and simply put, your £20 -£40 repair will come back to haunt you. correct technical term is “Turd polishing” Walk away and let the guy think you an idiot,rather than doing a bodge job and confirming his suspicion....Mark my words, this will not end well. Those machines are brutal,and the slightest deviation from straight and true will end with the machine vandalising itself to death.
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Plain and simply put, your £20 -£40 repair will come back to haunt you. correct technical term is “Turd polishing” Walk away and let the guy think you an idiot,rather than doing a bodge job and confirming his suspicion....Mark my words, this will not end well. Those machines are brutal,and the slightest deviation from straight and true will end with the machine vandalising itself to death.
He won't listen.
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only job i took on with out thinking was a next doors grandfathers clock oh can you just put a bit of glue on this was the ask the door on the face had fellapart when i brought it back it all fell to pieces after spending 5 hours across a day scraping glue drilling and gluing dowels in to fill wear came to refitting i had 1 chance to drill a hole in the right place so the door opens dut does not hit on anything and when closed or scrape top or bottem and in the door was a curved top as well to make it more intresting
got it done in the end and looked good
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“My gut feeling is he wants a cheap and quick repair that keeps it going. Yes it could be "perfect" for circa £200 but it might also be "good enough" for the £20-£40 range I am looking at. Whatever happens, it needs to be his decision and he's not answering the phone currently.”
Plain and simply put, your £20 -£40 repair will come back to haunt you. correct technical term is “Turd polishing” Walk away and let the guy think you an idiot,rather than doing a bodge job and confirming his suspicion....Mark my words, this will not end well. Those machines are brutal,and the slightest deviation from straight and true will end with the machine vandalising itself to death.
Spot on, i had a plummer block self destroy full chat on one of these was extraordinarily alarming.
Hired one with knackered bearings ( i didnt check initially) only run up you couldn't get past half throttle.
Flywheels are scary, good deal of potential in them.
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This is probably closer to the truth than some of the earlier comments. This chap has built his own stump grinder and literally run this one into the ground. He knows what the score is with these machines better than I do. The bearings are already distinctly noisy, the item is already struggling.
Yes I could easily make it worse
and yes, if the bearings give up the ghost because suddenly the machine is able to run at full speed, a disreputable person might blame the person who touched it last.This is why I have to look at the client as much as I look the job I am being asked to do. Does this chap appreciate he is asking me to make the best of a bad job? In my judgement, yes. He wants it done quick and dirty and I only have to convince myself I am able to perform a satisfactory repair under those circumstances by overthinking it and as much as anything, protect the client from himself.
Remember guys, this chap was running the machine with the pulley hanging off, held on with a key that looked like it had been chewed up and spat out with an old nail hammered into it. Look at the condition of the shaft. It was being used like that.
Like I said, I am unlikely to make it worse and if I turn the job down, he'll either take it to the next backstreet bodger or more likely, use a bigger nail with a bigger hammer...
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Hope your adequately insured. 
Where there is blame, there is a claim unfortunately. And, if this guy you say has built his own, then he is more Pillock than Engineer to even consider running it with noisy bearings...
Where there is blame, there is a claim unfortunately. And, if this guy you say has built his own, then he is more Pillock than Engineer to even consider running it with noisy bearings...
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Hope your adequately insured.
Where there is blame, there is a claim unfortunately. And, if this guy you say has built his own, then he is more Pillock than Engineer to even consider running it with noisy bearings...
They sounded noisy to me. First thing in the morning. Spun up by hand to show the pulley wavering by at least half an inch!
Well you're a big chap, a lot closer to his size than I am. You can call him a pillock if you like, I'll film it.
I've nothing to add on the repair but I once hired a stump grinder from HSS to grind down some lleylandii stumps.
Either lleylandii stumps are hard as rock or the teeth on the hire grinder were absolutely shot. Complete waste of time. Got the job done but I imagine I should have had it done in half the time with sharp teeth.
Either lleylandii stumps are hard as rock or the teeth on the hire grinder were absolutely shot. Complete waste of time. Got the job done but I imagine I should have had it done in half the time with sharp teeth.
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No problem....They sounded noisy to me. First thing in the morning. Spun up by hand to show the pulley wavering by at least half an inch!
Well you're a big chap, a lot closer to his size than I am. You can call him a pillock if you like, I'll film it.
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Well I might have another look at it in a minute but I had another "heart attack" this morning. Same as a year ago, huge arrhythmia, 196bpm (a personal record), heart feeling like it's banging a drum etc.
Ambulance just left. I went though months of this last time so turned down the opportunity to get carted off to A+E. I may pop in later to get my bloods but I already know what they will say (elevated troponin). I'll chase it up with my GP.
However, I probably shouldn't operate the lathe, this time it has left me feeling a little weak. I may set it up for measuring but if I do, I might not be able to resist just giving it a quick skim. Having seen the video, I agree it might be a poor setup which gave those results. Does look more like an offset than a bent shaft. Maybe I'll just get that aspect figured out today.
Ambulance just left. I went though months of this last time so turned down the opportunity to get carted off to A+E. I may pop in later to get my bloods but I already know what they will say (elevated troponin). I'll chase it up with my GP.
However, I probably shouldn't operate the lathe, this time it has left me feeling a little weak. I may set it up for measuring but if I do, I might not be able to resist just giving it a quick skim. Having seen the video, I agree it might be a poor setup which gave those results. Does look more like an offset than a bent shaft. Maybe I'll just get that aspect figured out today.
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Given what you report ^^, I'd take it back to him and explain that you're unable to proceed with his job for the foreseeable future, due to health reasons, and suggest he get's someone else to finish the job.
His reaction will be the measure of him as a 'friend'/customer. Does he express concern for you or annoyance/disappointment that his poorly maintained machine is still 'hors de combat'? Let us know....
Nothing is more important than your health, this is NOT a dress rehearsal.
His reaction will be the measure of him as a 'friend'/customer. Does he express concern for you or annoyance/disappointment that his poorly maintained machine is still 'hors de combat'? Let us know....
Nothing is more important than your health, this is NOT a dress rehearsal.
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Mate, for what its worth, put your feet up and pass this by. No sense in exacerbating a condition with avoidable stress. There'll be other things to turn your hand to. Take care
