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Onoff
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Answer it, she could be cute.
Oh, they always are! Dealt with a few Chinese reps and judging by their pictures they're all stunners. Am I taken in by it?
Erm.....yes!
With a bit of thought it's not hard to fit a hidden immobiliser on a vehicle, either in the electrics or the fuel line. Without it running it's not easy to nick a mini digger.
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Feels like it with Missus Onoff!
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Next call it will beLuv u lots Mr Onof
Luv u long time Mr On off fewfity dolla and a passport!
When he meets her at Heathrow she will have an adams apple!
1997 ... My conservatory 10 x 16m was dug by hand, a 1.2m deep walls x 900mm wide and the floor base area dug down 500mm for the -insulated floor .Totally agree. I done exactly the same.
One guy did it , wheeling his barrow 40 mtrs each trip to the low lipped skip out on the road & ran it up some scaffold boards . There was not a single wasted effort to get a full spadesful . IIRC it only took him just over four hours for which I paid him a days wage of £80 & a £ 50 tip
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If it's important enough, somebody somewhere will have a machine to make the part. Price ranging from tea money to eye-watering, of course.
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More persistent than double glazing sales !
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10 by 16 metres ? Thats some conservatory !
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The prices these direct from China people are quoting are far too close to the uk-supplied units for it to make sense IMO. I know that there would be volume discounts for the UK guy to ship over a container full but I also reckon that they are probably sussing out how much juice they can squeeze from a single sale. They are obviously thick skinned so if you do decide to direct import one in throw in a substantially lower offer and ket it come up to a happy medium.
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Looking at 1 tonne machines:
Direct from China Rippa R319 (Kubota diesel) Pilot Edition to my door £5451.51 all in. It has variable crawler extension and slightly greater digging depth, radius and height than the UK options.
UK options, Rippa R10 from an FB seller & Buffalo 1000 from Maidstone (both Koop diesel) are both £5500 + VAT so £6600.00. Plus collection / delivery.
Then I just found this:
The eBay ones plus vat
They are all saying kubota diesel but is it an actual kubota diesel or a Chinese kubota copy?
I know you seem quite set on one of these machines. And I can understand why the idea of new is appealing. But honestly the design of them is so poor. The Chinese are more than capable of building decent machines. Cat minis are made there after all. I've driven a couple of sanys and they are spot on and major competition for western brands. Xcmg luigong and sunward are also meant to be very good.
But these machines are asking for trouble. Alot don't have reduction hubs, just hydraulic motor poking straight out ready to get hit and damaged. The bottom rollers are just bolted through thin plate not in a proper carrier. The boom rams are significantly smaller than mainstream brands. The geometry of the dippers are all wrong. Alot of them are running air cooled engines under the seat or if they are water cooled it's a poor setup. They often lack oil coolers. Some don't have expanding undercarriage (whilst not a must it will make life a lot easier especially for a novice operator). They don't come with a quick hitch.
Some don't even have a kingpost.
That's without even getting into ergonomics and flow sharing.
For not much more than some of the UK based machines there are a couple of sub 300hour sanys on eBay. Still Chinese but built to western standards and becoming much more common on sites now. Also a luigong and some sunwards.
Plus a whole plethora of Western machines that represent better value for money especially when resale value is considered.
This isn't knocking Chinese machines. But there is definitely a scale and these machines will either frustrate you as you won't be able to achieve what you could with a mainstream brand, or if you haven't had the significant experience of what can be achieved then they will simply handicap you as you won't realise how big their shortcomings are.
But these machines are asking for trouble. Alot don't have reduction hubs, just hydraulic motor poking straight out ready to get hit and damaged. The bottom rollers are just bolted through thin plate not in a proper carrier. The boom rams are significantly smaller than mainstream brands. The geometry of the dippers are all wrong. Alot of them are running air cooled engines under the seat or if they are water cooled it's a poor setup. They often lack oil coolers. Some don't have expanding undercarriage (whilst not a must it will make life a lot easier especially for a novice operator). They don't come with a quick hitch.
Some don't even have a kingpost.
That's without even getting into ergonomics and flow sharing.
For not much more than some of the UK based machines there are a couple of sub 300hour sanys on eBay. Still Chinese but built to western standards and becoming much more common on sites now. Also a luigong and some sunwards.
Plus a whole plethora of Western machines that represent better value for money especially when resale value is considered.
This isn't knocking Chinese machines. But there is definitely a scale and these machines will either frustrate you as you won't be able to achieve what you could with a mainstream brand, or if you haven't had the significant experience of what can be achieved then they will simply handicap you as you won't realise how big their shortcomings are.
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Bit of an aside. BiL decided to resurrect an old petrol scarifier. Bought a Chinese 7.5hp engine, new for £60. I was there yesterday for the unboxing. I really did think what's not to like.
This sort of thing.
This sort of thing.
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Chinese stuff seems to be going two ways
Firstly stuff that is on a par price with UK/European made, still questions about quality
Or stuff so cheap that arrives you are genuinely impressed, the engine above is a good example, the 12 speed groupset I put on my bike is another. The equivalent Shimano/Sram was £1200+, I paid £250 delivered to my door. It has had a hard life and other than a screw made of chinesium, all replaced for a few pence, it has never let me down
Firstly stuff that is on a par price with UK/European made, still questions about quality
Or stuff so cheap that arrives you are genuinely impressed, the engine above is a good example, the 12 speed groupset I put on my bike is another. The equivalent Shimano/Sram was £1200+, I paid £250 delivered to my door. It has had a hard life and other than a screw made of chinesium, all replaced for a few pence, it has never let me down
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She is beginning to get on my t!ts! 
I've asked them about some of these questions. The one I'm looking at does have an expandable undercarriage. No quick hitch I know but I think that's available separately. That tbh isn't a deal breaker afaiac. Bold is her response with photos below. Not sure if that answers your issues / worries? Please any comments welcome:
1. The picture shows the bottom roller.
2. Two-way cooling: Water cooling dissipates heat for the engine, while the hydraulic oil radiator dissipates heat for the hydraulic oil.
3. The pilot motor has a deceleration effect.
A few videos she's sent me. Still offering a one to one, real time video tour of the factory...but I need a shave first...
I've asked them about some of these questions. The one I'm looking at does have an expandable undercarriage. No quick hitch I know but I think that's available separately. That tbh isn't a deal breaker afaiac. Bold is her response with photos below. Not sure if that answers your issues / worries? Please any comments welcome:
1. The picture shows the bottom roller.
2. Two-way cooling: Water cooling dissipates heat for the engine, while the hydraulic oil radiator dissipates heat for the hydraulic oil.
3. The pilot motor has a deceleration effect.
A few videos she's sent me. Still offering a one to one, real time video tour of the factory...but I need a shave first...
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If it were me, Id hop in the car and go and touch, feel, test the one in the ebay link…..6k is a lot of money to spend blind. And if-its there, and what you want pay the man and take it home. And it comes with a pecker!
As for the 300 hour Sany machines on ebay add the vat they dont look so cheap, but having used one recently helping a friend who has one, not the worst machine Ive ever used, perfectly acceptable. I dug 11 holes for the feet of a steel building, ready for the concrete.
There will be a fair difference in performance between a min8 digger 1.5/1.8 ton to a micro 1 ton machine.
27 yrs ago My mate Don had a mini Ford tractor that he damaged inside the gear box by trying to plough with it well beyond its capabilities .
He reckoned he couldn't get spares for love nor money so he he left it out in the open of the smallholding he had .
I don't think he believed me when I said I knew an engineer who had access to a major engineering workshop where he was allowed to buy stock steel and use their machinery in his own time . It would have cost about £ 80 for the shaft & a pair of new bearings which I'd have fitted for free as he was good mate.
Just over 5 months ago I was early hours shopping on Ali and bagged the same engine for £45 I've not checked it out it's still in the box and inhibited .. I may end up making a 17 foot wheeled vibrating screeder beam to do my new mancupboard base when the fibre glass reinforced liquid concrete is pumped in from the road side poured .. Though I think I may find that the guys laying it will just use long handled floats to get it very level throughout the shuttering forms
