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Friend of mine has a mate who rents diggers. When I was looking my friend gave his mate a ring. He said he wouldn't sell to me as the ex rental stuff is so bad amd abused it's end of life... almost.... he ships his off to Poland where they live a little longer. ...
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One thing dealing with the Chinese, they are on your case all the time it feels once you start talking to them. You feel a sense of "You buy? You buy!" At the mo I'm checking with HSBC that the bank account details are legit.
The Chinglish comes across too. This is in fact 1.2 & 1.4 tonnes being talked about with Hangweng:
Then the latest exchange with Rippa:
I really don't want to wait 60 to 80 days, it'll be winter for a start. If I'd have realised I'd have started the ball rolling a couple of months ago.
Maybe I will have to get something from Buffalo here.
The Chinglish comes across too. This is in fact 1.2 & 1.4 tonnes being talked about with Hangweng:
Then the latest exchange with Rippa:
I really don't want to wait 60 to 80 days, it'll be winter for a start. If I'd have realised I'd have started the ball rolling a couple of months ago.
Maybe I will have to get something from Buffalo here.
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Depends how long they have been out on rental and by whom. Many of the small machines in the market are ex rental, but if its say a jcb rented out and maintained by the jcb dealer at 3 years old and 1500 hours Id not be so worried.
What I will say is…spend 8k on a small decent digger, use it to self build, or such like, sell it on in 5 years assuming you look after it, you wont loose much money.
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My 600kg Buffalo tracked machine is great if a little jerky unless you throttle right down, the controls seem to be ON or OFF rather than proportional but I get round this by using low throttle for delicate work! I paid £4k all in, when looking for a localish old machine most were absolutely shagged to death and 20% were stolen, one was reported stolen 20 years ago but still on the TER.....................
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She will be hoping to sell you one, followed by 25 per month!
Wife deals with them for small stuff that we buy. They are 'chatty' and quite sweet in their own way.
We had a video of a specific item she wante more details for - and we're talking orders of £500, so 1/10 of what you're looking at!
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What, with Rippa or the Chinese in general?
Sorry - chinese in general.
Had a good gander at numerous Chinese light plant machinery .. Most use very common hydraulics and controls . the hydraulic pump is pretty universal . hoses are not a problem , sprocket track drives & track motors seem to be common too as are the grease filled track adjusters .
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They are certainly on your case once they get their claws into you. Polite mind and informative.
Got offered an R10 from a UK Rippa seller on Facebook for £5.5K + VAT but I collect (from HP16 0RD). I questioned the difference between that and the R319 Rippa in China are offering me for less & delivered. He said the R10 is a newer R319. The one I'm being quoted is though the R319 Pilot Edition.
Put it to the Chinese who came back with:
"Rippa Lydia: That's not the case. The R10 and R319 are two RIPPA series products of equal tonnage. The R10 is primarily sold to dealers, while the R319 is primarily retail.
What are the specs of this R10? I recommend the R319PRO Pilot Edition, which has a high spec and many similarities to the R15.
[26/08, 11:04] Rippa Lydia: There are two versions of R319, one is the regular version and the other is the pilot version. The one I recommend to you is the pilot version. It has pilot operation + Kubota engine + crawler extension + rocker arm side swing + Euro 5/EPA4 certification"
Tbh if the Chinese one was available for delivery immediately with no shipping weight I'd hit buy once the financials check out. I've a job I need to do now. Another 2 months wait and the weather will have turned.
Got offered an R10 from a UK Rippa seller on Facebook for £5.5K + VAT but I collect (from HP16 0RD). I questioned the difference between that and the R319 Rippa in China are offering me for less & delivered. He said the R10 is a newer R319. The one I'm being quoted is though the R319 Pilot Edition.
Put it to the Chinese who came back with:
"Rippa Lydia: That's not the case. The R10 and R319 are two RIPPA series products of equal tonnage. The R10 is primarily sold to dealers, while the R319 is primarily retail.
What are the specs of this R10? I recommend the R319PRO Pilot Edition, which has a high spec and many similarities to the R15.
[26/08, 11:04] Rippa Lydia: There are two versions of R319, one is the regular version and the other is the pilot version. The one I recommend to you is the pilot version. It has pilot operation + Kubota engine + crawler extension + rocker arm side swing + Euro 5/EPA4 certification"
Tbh if the Chinese one was available for delivery immediately with no shipping weight I'd hit buy once the financials check out. I've a job I need to do now. Another 2 months wait and the weather will have turned.
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I agree with this really. Even if if costs several hundred to hire for a while, at least you do not have to worry about breakdowns. Its a lot of money to part with for something that you may not be happy with.
Another aspect not touched on is storage. Do you have somewhere secure and under cover to keep it. ? I cannot insure mine because it is not locked indoors, and I try to keep it out of sight as much as possible for obvious reasons.
Then there are all the new friends who want to borrow, but not pay when they break it.
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Whilst not wanting to dissuade someone from buying new toys 
When we had an extension and largish patio done last year, we had 2 young labourers dig the foundations for each. Each foundation filled to max (and probably over) the largest grab hire 8 wheeler lorry. Including wheelbarrowing the spoil around the front of the house, each trench took probably less than 2 days. Find a builder with a couple of decent labourers and your trench will be done in a couple of days for a few hundred quid.
When we had an extension and largish patio done last year, we had 2 young labourers dig the foundations for each. Each foundation filled to max (and probably over) the largest grab hire 8 wheeler lorry. Including wheelbarrowing the spoil around the front of the house, each trench took probably less than 2 days. Find a builder with a couple of decent labourers and your trench will be done in a couple of days for a few hundred quid.Totally agree. I done exactly the same.Whilst not wanting to dissuade someone from buying new toys
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I've dug by hand before. Garage to gate cable trench. Dug down my bathroom too. All barrowed out in bags:
Tbh if I'd have started digging when I first posted, just a bit per night, I'd have had this done!
Tbh if I'd have started digging when I first posted, just a bit per night, I'd have had this done!
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Easier when someone else is doing it!
Plus you don't have to barrow/bag anything if using it to backfill
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My thoughts exactly…hiring a guy with a machine, will be quicker, also with far less mess. By the time you have learnt how to drive it the job will be done.
New friends wanting a borrow are not such an issue unless you buy a plant trailer too. I sold my plant trailer for that very reason. Must admit mine isnt insured either, sometimes lives outside, sometimes in the barn, but we are very rural with no passing view points, so it it doesn't really worry me. But they are best kept inside for longevity. Some insurers are wanting trackers on diggers and quads.
