Climber
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I just thought I was going mad as I was sure I read H & S exec. Agreed, the point still stands.I'd misremembered the sponsor, the gist of the post didn't change. Apologies.
I just thought I was going mad as I was sure I read H & S exec. Agreed, the point still stands.I'd misremembered the sponsor, the gist of the post didn't change. Apologies.
We are towards the top of quite a big hill, so I don't think the water table would be an issue. I'm no geologist, so could easily be wrong, but I'd think if the water table were only 5 or 6 feet lower than our ground level, and our property is 20 or 30 feet higher than some of our neighbours, they'd be having to swim.
A very slight understatement, and does the etc include the more more prevalent hideous life changing injuries? Have a read about about metal poisoning to start with.
Judging by my scant reading most of the H&S gone mad type stories are more about decisions based badly, or completely wrongly, on H&S guidelines. Chuck in petty officialdom and risk averse insurance companies and you've got a proper cauldron of stupidity
It still amuses me that the IoHS sponsored the World Conker Championship a few years back.
I blew mine out with the airline on my mobile comp or you could use a desk fan or similarGenuine question, once a pit had filled with propane/fuel vapour/whatever other nasties, how would you empty it? I can think of a way with a fast set of running legs and a match but how would you safely do it?
That's a good idea. Thanks for that. I was working on the assumption of them being filled for good, if they were filled at all. I could get a truck with a hiab to pretty much put a few bulk bags down right next to them.if you want to keep them, but still make them safe, you could fill them with building sand and board across them now, it's cheap enough, that way you close them up, so they're safe, but you'll still have the option to reopen them easily at a later date should you change your mind..
Filling would be really quick. If I can get the bags close enough, a Stanley knife will be pretty much all I need. Agreed, digging them out would be a bit more of a chore. Still a great idea though. Building sand is a good call too. Imagine trying to dig out ballast, sub-base or anything stoney with a shovel once it's sat there compacting itself for a few years.filling will be easier than emptying, but a few mates, a few shovels and a few crates of beer (encouragement) should get them empty pretty quick too....
Or x amount of cans of expanding foam.scrounge a load of polystyrene blocks or sheets and fit them in
Displace it with something. Water would do, as long as it would have somewhere lower to go once it was displaced. You could chuck half a dozen health and safety consultants in the hole at a push.
I wouldn't bet on it. I'm probably in a similar situation with the house being above the neighbours and a little bit of hill behind me. There's an open well under the old Victorian kitchen / workshop out the back and that's was a few feet below the ground level during the summer. In the recent months that has risen by a foot or so. That also has a pipe that feeds a slate sump by the stables (new workshops) and then into the (dry / to be resurrected) large pond.We are towards the top of quite a big hill, so I don't think the water table would be an issue. I'm no geologist, so could easily be wrong, but I'd think if the water table were only 5 or 6 feet lower than our ground level, and our property is 20 or 30 feet higher than some of our neighbours, they'd be having to swim.
They can be a danger when boarded over and forgotten, bloke I used to know had a decent sized fire in his, because he forgot about it when he sprayed his car, something went wrong.
a few years back , on the news , toddler still at crawling age gone missing , the family were at their new home having lunch on the lawn, police conducted a search , the parents had emptied the pond due to their children, covered with tarp, the child had got under edge of tarp, slid down to bottom, where a tiny cupfall of water caused by condensation was enough to drown the child.
Cant imagine the pain they went through.
look at post 24 that's why I said they can be dangerous .used correctly and they aren'tI knew someone who gone into a pit to work on [iirc] the fuel system. He'd rolled the car forward once he was in as he needed to access the rear. Anyway, inevitably some petrol was leaked and he waited until he considered it had evaporated then lit up his o/a welding gear. You can guess the rest, he couldn't get out or roll the car back to give a slot through which he could crawl. Very badly burned, marked facially for life. He was lucky to be alive and was found when someone went to see what was taking him so long "with such a little job".
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