Hilux MK6 Chassis and Rear Tub

[Jelly_Sheffield]

That's the bugger sorted.

In a potentially controversial choice, I have done the fittings all the way up, backed out a couple turns, put low strength thread sealant round the last 2-3 threads of each flare nut to make it form a little bead where the nut meets the fitting, and tightened to the correct torque with a crows foot.

I'm not interested in it sealing properties and didn't want it anywhere near the flares or at risk of getting in the lines...

But I do want it to form a barrier to stop corrosion building up and locking the threads together around the outside, making it difficult to service for the next person.

 

[Jelly_Sheffield]

All bled, all adjusted, working, great!

One word to the unwise on doing a full system bleed, because Toyota TechDoc doesn't mention it...

When bleeding the master cylinder:

- the rear of the two flare fittings will take about 10 minutes to undo or do up because of stupid pipe routing.

- no matter what you do, where you hold a rag, whatever you try... you will be sprayed in the face with brake fluid each time you cycle it once the master begins to prime.

Now on to the welding...

 

[bert]

I fitted a lexus ls400 wheel on my 90series, same wheel but it had the cruise control levers on them.

Never got round to sorting out the cruise control thoigh

 

[Jelly_Sheffield]

Welding went straightforwardly enough.

One slight rub, I left the windows down from doing the bleeding, disconnected the battery to weld, and re-emerged from under the car to rain.

Figured that seen as the battery was disconnected for a while now there wouldn't be a better time to remove the steering wheel to fit the cruise control...

Which was actually surprisingly easy, although I almost forgot to torque the steering wheel back up (50Nm if you need to, but awkward to apply).

Reconnected the battery, and now the passenger window won't go up... Bugger, that slight rub is now a significant frustration

Currently on my way to a dinner for my partner's stepfather's birthday, so will attend to the window when I get back (one way or another) then road test the truck.

No photos I'm afraid as I was in a bit of a rush.

 

[Jelly_Sheffield]

I fitted a lexus ls400 wheel on my 90series, same wheel but it had the cruise control levers on them.

Never got round to sorting out the cruise control thoigh

Is the 90 series the Prado/Colorado?

I think depending on age it may well have been wired for cruise if you hooked it up, they started fitting the wiring for it by default shortly before the switch to the 3rd gen (120?)

 

[Jelly_Sheffield]

Ok so I got the window working again, at which point the spiral cable assembly (which was initially fine after I reassembled the steering wheel) decided to give up the ghost.

So the horn is out of action, the airbag system is throwing fault codes (because it can't sense the airbag) and it's definitely an MOT fail... Again.

I have a spiral cable on order for Monday, but that's another £90 down the drain

 

[Jelly_Sheffield]

Oh, and the handbrake needs more adjustment than I can achieve with just the turnbuckle underneath, meaning I will need to remove the center console to access the internal adjuster...

And the handbrake cable adjuster heat shield (don't ask) bolts sheered off, so they will need to be removed and replaced somehow too.

It's generally very reliable, but with the age it is, I think it's inevitable that when you do have to fix something it starts a cascade of downstream issues.

 

[Kayos]

Sounds like you need to buy a Land Rover

 

[bert]

Is the 90 series the Prado/Colorado?

I think depending on age it may well have been wired for cruise if you hooked it up, they started fitting the wiring for it by default shortly before the switch to the 3rd gen (120?)

It is, when plugged in it didn't work so just left it at that. I think there was a guide on changing the wiring around in the wheel

 

[Jelly_Sheffield]

Sounds like you need to buy a Land Rover

I bet you think you're dead funny don't you...

I think the Hilux got it's "unkillable" reputation due to very durable engines... Never mentioned is the way the rest of it will still rust, deteriorate and generally screw you over.

Obviously if I was in sub Saharan Africa and didn't need an MOT, unkillable engine=unkillable vehicle... Alas, not so for us in the UK.

 

[Kayos]

I bet you think you're dead funny don't you...

I think the Hilux got it's "unkillable" reputation due to very durable engines... Never mentioned is the way the rest of it will still rust, deteriorate and generally screw you over.

Obviously if I was in sub Saharan Africa and didn't need an MOT, unkillable engine=unkillable vehicle... Alas, not so for us in the UK.

Not at all, it just seems like you enjoy never ending and expanding projects

 

[Jelly_Sheffield]

Not at all, it just seems like you enjoy never ending and expanding projects

Enjoy is a strong word. I have inadvertently committed myself to one...

Then my daily driver periodically decides it wants to get in on the action too.

 

[Kayos]

Enjoy is a strong word. I have inadvertently committed myself to one...

Then my daily driver periodically decides it wants to get in on the action too.

I loved my D2, the endless repairs less so

I bought an L200, it never broke or had any kind of fault

Not sure why I sold it if I'm honest

 

[arther dailey]

It is, when plugged in it didn't work so just left it at that. I think there was a guide on changing the wiring around in the wheel

I am fair enough on spanners..but not hot on electronics , as you have done yours can I ask , do all controls go through clock springs from the likes of cruise/speakers etc , because although dash light comes on my cruise doesnt work nor do any of the other buttons ? its mitsi l200 2014, thanks.

 

[bert]

All steering wheel functions would need to go via the clock spring

 

[arther dailey]

All steering wheel functions would need to go via the clock spring

thanks , but confuses me that dash lights up that its on cruise , but doesnt work.

 

[Jelly_Sheffield]

I am fair enough on spanners..but not hot on electronics , as you have done yours can I ask , do all controls go through clock springs from the likes of cruise/speakers etc , because although dash light comes on my cruise doesnt work nor do any of the other buttons ? its mitsi l200 2014, thanks.

As Bert says it will go via the clock spring.

Usually the switches are simple resistor ladders to minimise the number of cables, so if you're able to use a multimeter on fiddly pins and happy to take the steering pad off it's easy to test (compared to stuff that runs on canbus or the like)

You would need the Mitsi workshop manual though to know what the right values are.

 

[octo0072000]

think you need the mitsi software to enable cruise

 

[Jelly_Sheffield]

New spiral cable in, airbag light off, horn working, tested with the diagnostic software, happy days.

On disassembly of the old one to understand what went wrong, the ribbon cable inside had shaken loose of the spring loaded clip which holds it to the output connectors. I think me giving the steering wheel a firm yank to free it from the splines may have jiggled it just enough to make it fall out.

Everything now works, the handbrake is still not quite right, based on the current brake pedal travel, it feels like it does when they're quite worn so I probably left too much shoe clearance doing it by eye.

I don't want to overdo things tightening them by feel, so might have to pop the wheels back off tomorrow and use the 9"-12" micrometers to set the shoe position (I don't have calipers big enough) giving the Toyota recommended 0.6mm of clearance from the 295mm internal diameter of the brand new drums. I guess that's a reading of 590 thou with the 11"-12" anvil fitted.

 

[Jelly_Sheffield]

Interesting note, the steering is much smoother now... I didn't notice until I had a point of comparison, but the only way I can describe it is that it previously felt "gritty".

Presumably the clock spring had been failing for a while and the jiggling when I removed the steering wheel did for it.