Health and Losing Weight

[slim_boy_fat]

There was a show during the week about two women who said they ate what they wanted and stayed thin, guess what they were talking rubbish

Mhhh, not necessarily. I eat anything and everything I fancy, often cooked in true batchelor stylee - fried stuff etc. and my weight never varies beyond a pound or two either way. It's regularly checked at the hospital on their scales which correspond with my cheapy home set. I amaze the nurses when I can tell them what my weight will be.....

Neither do I calorie count...ever. It's a case of see/fancy, have. I don't buy very many ready meals though - I tend to batch cook with fresh produce and freeze down portions for those "What'll I have tonight" moments.
I eat whatever biscuits I fancy too, chocolate covered ones/toffee ones...you name it, I'll have it.

 

[rockweasel]

There was a show during the week about two women who said they ate what they wanted and stayed thin, guess what they were talking rubbish and reality was they consumed the right amount of calories for their activity levels. Being over weight also makes it harder to do stuff so it’s health and lifestyle benefits of not carrying extra pounds of fat about. Like you said previously don’t get obsessed with it, just make it part of your lifestyle if you want lasting change.

There was a show on a few years ago that was something like this. They took a dozen or so young adults who were naturally thin but didn't watch their diets or exercise to any great extent. They asked them to eat as much as they could of high calorie foods. Anything goes. They followed them and tracked what they did for as long as the experiment lasted.

A couple put on weight.
Some fidgeted more, burning extra calories.
Some just could not stomach the extra food and their appetite decreased.
There was one lucky guy who built extra muscle without working out - that's how his body handled the excess food.

I used to be of the opinion that it was all calories in vs calories burned, but it seems from that experiment that there are those who find those extra calories less of a problem to deal with.

 

[slim_boy_fat]

Many years ago I did a 2 weeks volunteer residential study at the Rowett Research Institute's Human Nutrition Unit. About 10 of us there at the one time and the idea was to establish from the Group why some were like me, while others gained weight just looking at a plate.

We could eat what we liked, ordered in advance and the Staff would go down to the nearby Tesco superstore and buy it for you. We had to cook it ourselves and keep careful and precise notes of how much and what weights of ingredients we used, everything had to be weighed and any left-overs accounted for too in terms of weight [none from the human trash bin here ] Steaks, beers etc were all allowed , but don't recall anyone abusing it.

We had to measure urine output and were regularly assessed by a qualified Doctor, who'd take regular blood samples and measured BMI [I still can't believe mine was the equivalent of a top athlete....changed days ] by putting us in an egg-shaped, pressurised chamber [. It was iirc around day 4 I was asked if I was definitely going to complete the full 2 weeks, apparently some didn't stick it out and left. When I said yes, I was given a glass with the most expensive drink I'd ever had or will ever have. £1,000 for about 1/3rd of a pint of water. It was heavy water and so valuable that I was given a straw with which to suck up every last drop. Apparently they could recover it in the urine [yes, I know....] and tell all sorts of stuff about your metabolism.

I really enjoyed it - we had access to books, magazines, TV, Playstations etc audio equipment etc, and the bunch I was with all got on well. The time was your own and you could leave the Unit and go into town, with the proviso that anything you ate or drank was recorded and reported back so that calorific intake could be accurately recorded.

All in the interests of science. I missed out on the subsequent one where they studied chocolate - wrong demographic

 

[Kent]

There’s loads of information out there and the increased risk of; type 2 diabetes, heart disease, cancer etc if you are overweight, especially carrying fat around your waist is a big health issue. A simple and best measure is around your waist which will be at the bellybutton. Above 40” is significant risk, above 37” is still unhealthy. Ideal waist measurement is less than 50% of your height and less that 37” if you’re very tall and your risk of the health issues is considerably reduced. Being a healthy weight should not be discouraged!

Actually doing 40 or more minutes of high intensity training 5 times per week is the best way to add years onto your expected life span, exercise should not be discouraged!

Please refer to my first post, this is for positive comments and those wanting to improve their health.

Well I am fifty years old ex athlete , boxer 6ft 32 waist type 2 diabetic . I could debate the point the point . I know others similar. It's now known that's there are far more than two types of diabetic and many causes .

 

[Burdekin]

Well I am fifty years old ex athlete , boxer 6ft 32 waist type 2 diabetic . I could debate the point the point . I know others similar. It's now known that's there are far more than two types of diabetic and many causes .

You know your waist size and as a diabetic will know the importance of not being overweight and a healthy diet. You'll also know it's not something folk would want?

This is only statistics it doesn't mean you won't get it but there is a much greater percentage of overweight folk with type 2 than normal or slightly underweight.

Exercise, being a healthy weight and a good diet are good for general well being if nothing else. I'm at that age if I don't look after myself life will just get harder and more uncomfortable.

 

[Kent]

You know your waist size and as a diabetic will know the importance of not being overweight and a healthy diet. You'll also know it's not something folk would want?

This is only statistics it doesn't mean you won't get it but there is a much greater percentage of overweight folk with type 2 than normal or slightly underweight.

Exercise, being a healthy weight and a good diet are good for general well being if nothing else. I'm at that age if I don't look after myself life will just get harder and more uncomfortable.

I repeate in a different way all people who are classed as type 2 have various forms of diabetic conditions . All those classified as type 1 likewise . The causes and treatment has changed massively .
However it's taking time for the media to catch up . Also health care professionals .

Only a short while ago type 2 was always tablets , type 1 always injection that's just not true today . Many skinny fellas have type 2 and develop it

exercise can and will burn a body out the same as a car doesn't improve with hard driving and mileage . Al! Things mmoderation. Being slim might make not the slightest difference. In fact looking weight fast is often a primary type 1 indicator .

 

[Burdekin]

I repeate in a different way all people who are classed as type 2 have various forms of diabetic conditions . All those classified as type 1 likewise . The causes and treatment has changed massively .
However it's taking time for the media to catch up . Also health care professionals .

Only a short while ago type 2 was always tablets , type 1 always injection that's just not true today . Many skinny fellas have type 2 and develop it

exercise can and will burn a body out the same as a car doesn't improve with hard driving and mileage . Al! Things mmoderation. Being slim might make not the slightest difference. In fact looking weight fast is often a primary type 1 indicator .

This is going down the route I knew someone would try and take it. Findings from a study of 300000 folk and the significance of waist to height attached, not hearsay or personal opinion.

 

[Morrisman]

However it's taking time for the media to catch up . Also health care professionals .

Only a short while ago type 2 was always tablets , type 1 always injection that's just not true today . Many skinny fellas have type 2 and develop it

exercise can and will burn a body out the same as a car doesn't improve with hard driving and mileage . Al! Things mmoderation. Being slim might make not the slightest difference. In fact looking weight fast is often a primary type 1 indicator .

I went for blood tests a couple of days ago, PSA, diabetes and a bunch of others due for guys my age. Should get the results back tomorrow......

I feel fairly healthy, though I could definitely lose another 10kg and still be over my ‘recommended’ BMI, though I find that system a touch ridiculous. I never smoked, rarely drink, keep active, walk my dog for up to an hour most nights, but don’t go to the gym anywhere near as often as I should.

 

[bigegg]

Only for us lucky few, I suspect.

no.
for every one.
it appears my natural weight is somewhere north of 20st, however.

 

[Kent]

I went for blood tests a couple of days ago, PSA, diabetes and a bunch of others due for guys my age. Should get the results back tomorrow......

I feel fairly healthy, though I could definitely lose another 10kg and still be over my ‘recommended’ BMI, though I find that system a touch ridiculous. I never smoked, rarely drink, keep active, walk my dog for up to an hour most nights, but don’t go to the gym anywhere near as often as I should.

Very good argument can be made against goingbto the gym.. A lot of my isdues today origonate from the gym.
A body aint much different than a car.. Rev the beegeebers out of it and take it around the click a few times will wear it out as fadt as putting poor oil and bad fuel in it and tootling down the shops
Key is moderation imo. 15k per year mainly motoway an goid a roads good servicing and quality fuel especially

 

[Kent]

This is going down the route I knew someone would try and take it. Findings from a study of 300000 folk and the significance of waist to height attached, not hearsay or personal opinion.

Medical funding depends on data.. Nobody wants the data to not support thier case. A lot of views are different among medical people who specialise..
Eh but i aint no armchair fatty who eats pizza or fish n chips etc regular.. Far from it
Think cars, and how they dont ladt at either extreme (tge body is no more tgan a machine)

 

[Morrisman]

Very good argument can be made against goingbto the gym.. A lot of my isdues today origonate from the gym.
A body aint much different than a car.. Rev the beegeebers out of it and take it around the click a few times will wear it out as fadt as putting poor oil and bad fuel in it and tootling down the shops
Key is moderation imo. 15k per year mainly motoway an goid a roads good servicing and quality fuel especially

I don’t red line at the gym any more, none of this pushing weights until my nose bleeds, gave all that away twenty years ago. I use the elliptical thing for 20 minutes, until I break a sweat and the heart is beating, then rowing machine for about ten minutes, then many some weight machines, or the stepping machine.

 

[Burdekin]

Very good argument can be made against goingbto the gym.. A lot of my isdues today origonate from the gym.
A body aint much different than a car.. Rev the beegeebers out of it and take it around the click a few times will wear it out as fadt as putting poor oil and bad fuel in it and tootling down the shops
Key is moderation imo. 15k per year mainly motoway an goid a roads good servicing and quality fuel especially

You’re embarrassing yourself, what a load of rubbish, totally clueless on the topic and just trolling. Drive off lol...

 

[Olderisbetter]

@Burdekin good weight loss results in a sensible time frame..
This all makes interesting reading, Getting into shape because you want to or to avoid complications later is very sensible, I have seen plenty of people who were ill due to bad lifestyles trying to get their health back and it is not always easy, I think some of us can just walk near a fast food place and put on a few pounds, But it can be hard to change habits but the benefits are good physically and mentally.