Disco 2

[BrokenBiker]

It is permanent four wheel drive in exactly the same way an escort is two wheel drive. A diff just allows for different wheels travelling a different distance whilst cornering. The centre diff does exactly the same.

i assumed permanent 4wd meant the likes of the freelander, i assumed because the disco's have 2hi, 4hi and 4lo that it wasnt permanent. if it is in 2hi will the front wheels take any power as i assumed it was rear only when in 2hi

 

[HughF]

eh? Disco's have high and low... They are all permanent 4wd because they have a centre diff, same as defender and Range Rover etc. Hence the reason they can tow 3500kgs and most other 4wd pickups can't because they are switchable 4wd with no centre diff. The lt230 transfer case is not switchable to disconnect the front prop.

 

[BrokenBiker]

ah right, i didnt know that, i thought they were the same sort of thing as my navara was. so its just 4hi and 4lo then? that makes more sense now

 

[HughF]

Freelander is front wheel drive because the rear is driven 2% slower or something so the vcu is always slipping unless the rears are on soft stuff when they grip and the vcu locks up.

 

[HughF]

Yes, lo and hi. You can drive them like a hooligan on the road in the wet and they grip like a bastard. Disco 2 also has active roll control at the front (not all of them I think, perhaps only top spec) so you can throw them about. They are in a different league on road to any Japanese pickup.

 

[evobilly666]

There is no 2 hi setting, it is high range or low range. power is transmitted equally front to rear during normal driving. Jack the front wheels up and they will just spin and the vehicle will stand still, same if you just jack the rears up. If you engage centre diff lock and jack both front or both rear wheels up then you can drive off the jack, as long as there is traction to both of the two wheels still on the ground. The wheels in the air will spin but the locked diff will send power to the others regardless.

 

[CompoSimmonite]

Td5 it is then. when you say terminal, do you mean genuinely terminal

Google discovery 2 chassis rot to see other peoples experiences and pictures

 

[HughF]

They are good trucks but:

Chassis rots at the back
Abs system (that runs the traction control) is an electronic abortion and isn't very reliable
Td5 cracks exhaust manifold studs off and has problems where oil tracks down the injector harness into the ecu, both are fixable.
Airbags (suspension) can blow, easy and quick to change. Compressor can eat the brushes, easily replaced
Door bottoms rot

Aside from that they are comfy (more so than early disco 3) and the manual gearbox is better. Fuel system is more reliable too.

 

[HughF]

I'd get a p38 2.5 Td personally... Although they have visibly aged a lot worse and the engines are a bit weak if you tune them.

Same 4wd system, air suspension all round (I think), different transfer case, more cow and walnut

 

[BrokenBiker]

starting to get an understanding now. have looked into p38's before but was told they are horrendous on fuel. i would love aa rnage rover but als have to consider insurance

 

[HughF]

You'll get mid-high 20's from either a td5 or a diesel p38, less if you're a hooligan... Besides, fuel is nearly a quid a litre, stop worrying about it... Insurance will be same on either.

 

[gordon stephenson]

Land Cruiser or G Wagen, both have locks for centre, front and rear axles, had them both and they are truly awesome off road.

 

[BrokenBiker]

Land Cruiser or G Wagen, both have locks for centre, front and rear axles, had them both and they are truly awesome off road.

hadnt thought of the land cruiser. dont really want a g wagon, just dont like the look of them

 

[colnerov]

I have heard Land cruisers can be spiteful on fuel when driven hard.

 

[Tinbasherdan]

I wouldn't be given a p38, unbelievable hassle whichever engine you choose! From the period when lr wanted to make fancy electrical things, just weren't very good on making it all work. And I wouldn't trust any landy on air, prone to sitting themselves on the bumpstops when least ideal

 

[MoreWellie]

petrol landcruiser colorado will average 22 if driven sensibly with a mix of roads, 20 around town. had mine from new, 15 years old and 130k on the clock no major issues although I will have to climb underneath soon and remove some of the rust. no personality though. The disco 1, defender, classic range rover all more enjoyable but sometimes you just want a vehicle that keeps going, and going, and going....

I seemed to remember the diesel version is supposed to do around 28 mpg but it had reliability issues compared to the petrol engine

if you want spiteful on fuel then try ragging a 3.9v8 disco. Single digit mpg isn't a laughing matter at todays prices

 

[colnerov]

Hi, I used to run a coil sprung series, RV8 and Jag model 12 auto box (fed up of the breakages) Aerodynamic as a housebrick and me with divers boots. That used to be single figures. Then I had a RR with GMC V8 diesel and 4 sp ZF which used to return about mid 20s, much better and used to tow like nothing was there.

Colin

 

[Rocketman]

Will this join the alfa and Renault on cars Brokenbiker doesn't like anymore

 

[harryb94]

Will this join the alfa and Renault on cars Brokenbiker doesn't like anymore

It's a landrover, of course its going to

Also worth adding on the topic of air bags the disco 2 was available with coil springs in poverty spec and now there's conversions available to go from air to coil.

Another thing worth noting is the fancy cornering system - ACE (active cornering enhancement IIRC?) which works great till it goes wrong, and can then end up costing a lot of money, again I don't think this was on the poverty spec model, just the more upmarket ones?

 

[roofman]

iff its going to be a landcruiser its got to be the fullsize Amazon or it aint a landcruiser...one of my fav cars of all time is this model with the big straight 6 mechanical injection diesel