Brit Destroyer Sails Along Russian Coast???

[mike os]

Controversial !!!!

But true

 

[daleyd]

HMS Defender goes for a pleasure cruise through Russian narrative warfare in the Black Sea

Russia uses kinetic operations to support its narrative objectives — again

www.greatpower.us

An interesting read of the events and the background to it…

 

[Parm]

But true

Punjabi Royal Family, the Mahrajah Ranjit Singh‘s son turned into a Lakie for queen Victoria, stolen the biggest diamond and turned it into royal hardware. Robbed all the palaces of its riches and brought them here then exploited weakness to divide and conqer resulting in partition

im Indian by heritage but British by birth

I’m English just the same as most of you and proud of it, but I have cultural roots in India that I also respect and also proud of

while Im im a true Brit (with a better sun tan than all of you) I will never accept that that empire was good .......

 

[mike os]

Punjabi Royal Family, the Mahrajah Ranjit Singh‘s son turned into a Lakie for queen Victoria, stolen the biggest diamond and turned it into royal hardware. Robbed all the palaces of its riches and brought them here then exploited weakness to divide and conqer resulting in partition

im Indian by heritage but British by birth

I’m English just the same as most of you and proud of it, but I have cultural roots in India that I also respect and also proud of

while Im im a true Brit (with a better sun tan than all of you) I will never accept that that empire was good .......

From what I recall it was a toss up between the English or the french for India

 

[mike os]

And ultimately it often came from the greed or dream of one local leader over another… they saw a means to gain transcendence by allaying themselves with one western nation or the other…

 

[500e]

They were the norms of the time.
History cant be changed & if we have learnt from it good.
Being Welsh we have been persecuted for hundreds of years, Romans, Normans, English.
Jokes at our expense country raped & pillaged for coal, slate, water, etc.
We all have a tale if we wish to be victimized, take the good bits & make them better

 

[Barking Mat]

It's all History.

Not alot we can do about it in hindsight.

Struck me as weird how Blair apologised for the potato famine.

But that's where we're at..

 

[reb78]

People do love to bash Britain, no idea why

As for following the yanks, what did they used to say "Pride of the US Air force, the British built Harrier Jump Jet"

My grandfather always said that they had one rule in the war.... that was never to go out in front of the yanks if you wanted to come back....

 

[Farside]

You have obviously never heard of the Barbary pirates then. It wasn't just us doing it.
People apply modern standards to very different times!

Well, precisely.
All Britain did was introduce a thoroughly modern Point of Sale system.

 

[Parm]

They were the norms of the time.
History cant be changed & if we have learnt from it good.
Being Welsh we have been persecuted for hundreds of years, Romans, Normans, English.
Jokes at our expense country raped & pillaged for coal, slate, water, etc.
We all have a tale if we wish to be victimized, take the good bits & make them better

I don’t feel victimised. Not one little bit

but I’m not going to be told that what happened in the past was good

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[Farside]

did anyone actually go to the moon or was it staged

A large hangar in Arizona, the other side of the flat earth.

 

[a111r]

I still don't understand this LlGBT nonsense .

I like copper, some like silicon.
Handbags at dawn conflict? No, both are good.

 

[500e]

feel victimised. Not one little bit
But I’m not going to be told that what happened in the past was good.

Me neither Parm what I am saying is that's how things were then not that they were right.
My post was not aimed at you it was a general comment
PS
They still do sheep jokes

 

[The_Yellow_Ardvark]

They still do sheep jokes

Do ewe mind, that was baaaaaaad. Less of your woolly thinking.

 

[Parm]

feel victimised. Not one little bit
But I’m not going to be told that what happened in the past was good.

Me neither Parm what I am saying is that's how things were then not that they were right.
My post was not aimed at you it was a general comment
PS
They still do sheep jokes

I didn’t take it as aimed at me, not one bit.
I’m agreeing with you

 

[slim_boy_fat]

I feel love in the room......

 

[Tinbasherdan]

Might be due to the fact that for the last few centuries they've rampaged round the globe in sailing ships sticking the Union flag in any piece of land that they happened upon and claiming it for the reigning monarch, as well as subjugating the local populace and forcing them to be "British" or taking them captive before sailing home to Liverpool or Bristol and selling them into slavery.

And let's not forget that the English have spent quite a few years subjugating the other nations of Great Britain, Scotsmen banned from wearing the kilt, Welsh folk banned from speaking their own language, Irish folk sent across the globe to seve penal servitude for simply looking after their families, etc, etc...

no one ever talks about the Belgians and their colonies though so they? Think about that one.

As for the ships, don’t worry about them being noisy. What’s more than likely hovering about underneath it is more than capable of dealing with any problems, and they are exceedingly silent. Spent a lot of time on astute boats, don’t believe the sun reports on “outdated computer systems”

 

[The_Yellow_Ardvark]

don’t believe the sun reports

Does any sensible life form?

 

[mike os]

I don’t feel victimised. Not one little bit

but I’m not going to be told that what happened in the past was good

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Not all good, not all bad, sometimes out of pure motives sometimes out of avarice, history is a funny old thing and hindsight just makes it more difficult.

My Indian history is somewhat patchy but at the time it seems like it was a choice between England France or Islam.... the old kingdoms were going one way or the other, from their own intrigues or from external influences. Of the 3 I am pretty certain that the way it went was not the worst outcome, would France have been any better?

 

[Bullet2012]

I think the forum collective can sort this situation, when we have finished raising the munitions from the ship off the Essex coast and built our go fast global warming boat.