Anyone ever had a long lasting angle grinder?

[eLuSiVeMiTe]

That can rest there for a little longer

Bob

Lol. They come up on the bay around 80 notes. Set a watch up. Mine was free

 

[Memmeddu]

Curiosity,no ones mentioned a perles product?

I have a perles concrete mixer , very good quality tool.
Anyway perles is well known for their low voltage products
48V and 72V tools will need to be connected to a transformer ,a welder or an engine driven welder generator
Mainly used in big sites like off shore and naval industry

 

[eddie49]

Curiosity,no ones mentioned a perles product?

Perles? Don't mention that name to me. Bought a Perles angle grinder at Toom Baumarkt in Germany in 1980. Cost about 150 DM, which was a lot to me then. Never used it until 1990, when I had to cut the rusty sill off a Mini. The grinder ran for 5 minutes and then let it's white smoke out.
Perles tools were made by the Yugoslav company "Iskra" - which means "spark". In my case, too many.

There's a good German angle grinder company that is neither Metabo nor Bosch : Flex.
https://www.flex-tools.com/en/
They invented the angle grinder in 1954, and often any angle grinder is called a "Flex" in Germany ( cf."Hoover" vacuum cleaner or "Thermos" flask ). Flex grinders are very capable - e.g. they offer a 5 inch grinder with a 1700 Watt motor, soft start, NVR switch, variable speed, brake, and constant speed control.

Bosch codes are not too difficult to understand
G stands for industrial
W stands for angle
S stands for grinder

That would be: Gewerblich .... .Winkel .... Schleifer

 

[Memmeddu]

Perles? Don't mention that name to me. Bought a Perles angle grinder at Toom Baumarkt in Germany in 1980. Cost about 150 DM, which was a lot to me then. Never used it until 1990, when I had to cut the rusty sill off a Mini. The grinder ran for 5 minutes and then let it's white smoke out.
Perles tools were made by the Yugoslav company "Iskra" - which means "spark". In my case, too many.

There's a good German angle grinder company that is neither Metabo nor Bosch : Flex.
https://www.flex-tools.com/en/
They invented the angle grinder in 1954, and often any angle grinder is called a "Flex" in Germany ( cf."Hoover" vacuum cleaner or "Thermos" flask ). Flex grinders are very capable - e.g. they offer a 5 inch grinder with a 1700 Watt motor, soft start, NVR switch, variable speed, brake, and constant speed control.



That would be: Gewerblich .... .Winkel .... Schleifer

Exactly , I couldn't remember how were wrote the various German words
Würth uses EWS
Fein uses WS
AEG uses WS
Metabo uses W
Etc etc..
I used a little 800W Flex grinder it was great but none of their grinders has safety features other than the disc guard
That if they didn't change anything in the last few years

Edit
Flex LE14-11-125 has a bunch of good safety features
Kickback stop
Anti-restart
Soft start
Constant speed
Antivibration handle
Variable speed

I should probably buy one

 

[Ancient_Axeman]

As title, 115mm 240v no matter what I buy the god damn things die within a year. It’s always the same thing, the armature starts growling bit by bit. I’ve had possibly 13 grinders in ten years ranging from £10 budget to £70,dewalt, Bosch blue Makita and more.
I just can’t find one that will do the duration of the warranty.

I use steel 4.5” cutting discs and those twisted nasty nasty wire wheels so it’s metal dust that I think is the killer. I can’t use any thing too vicious as I use it single hand and it needs to be narrow body with one hand easy switching.

Anyone on here using one everyday on metal that’s been impressive?

Heres a couple of solid 115 mm Angle Grinders
The Bosch I have had about 25yrs with no repairs but not daily use.
The Axminster [ thought they made carpets!! ] is 2004 I have used it for a couple of years and its Evil !! probably one of the most powerful small grinders I have ever used!

 

[the snooper]

There is a good chance people put too much pressure on the grinder forcing it to cut rather then letting it cut slower at its designed pace hence they heat up to much and eventually self destruct

 

[Memmeddu]

There is a good chance people put too much pressure on the grinder forcing it to cut rather then letting it cut slower at its designed pace hence they heat up to much and eventually self destruct

I usually use to put just enough pressure to avoid any bounce from the wheel .
Less pressure =more speed=less tool and accessories wear

 

[Memmeddu]

I told you about my Hitachi G13SE2
Made in Ireland in 2003 got an hard life in a semi-industrial environment (heavy equipment welding shop) for about 14 or 15 years
It got a bearing failure and armature started sparking
The owner took it to my friend (Hitachi powertools repair centre) and decided to not proceed with the repair
He gave it to me for free
I replaced the bearing without caring about the armature ... And it's alive
It stalled for 15 seconds without smoking out and it still going
I was sad because Hitachi seemed doesn't make it anymore .
But today I've found this
https://www.hikoki-powertools.com/products/powertools/ac-grind/g13se2/g13se2.html

And hikoki even doesn't change the design it still the same identical grinder just improved(soft start and restart protection)
I just love this grinder and I should probably buy another one because it's kind bomb proof
I highly recommend it


Ps the features say Input power 1200W
Output power 1900W ...
That's impossible because Einstein taught us how everything in this world does work.
I think they mean 900W

 

[Brad93]

You’ve got to look at it this way.

It’s either a tool to do a job or an ornament you never want to replace.

Tools wear out.

If I’m grinding something I want to get it done, you can’t stand there for half an hour letting the grinder do the work, you’ve got to put some force behind it. Inevitably yes this is going to be hard on grinders and that’s just something you’ve got to accept.

It’s very different when someone is telling you their £35 grinder from Aldi has lasted 20 years but hasn’t ever worked on anything thicker than rusty car body work once a week.

 

[Memmeddu]

You’ve got to look at it this way.

It’s either a tool to do a job or an ornament you never want to replace.

Tools wear out.

If I’m grinding something I want to get it done, you can’t stand there for half an hour letting the grinder do the work, you’ve got to put some force behind it. Inevitably yes this is going to be hard on grinders and that’s just something you’ve got to accept.

It’s very different when someone is telling you their £35 grinder from Aldi has lasted 20 years but hasn’t ever worked on anything thicker than rusty car body work once a week.

I think that your thoughts are good.
Let's talk about an aspect
Grinding ok you have to use some pressure
But I think that there is a limit .
So find the right compromise between motor RPMs and material removal rate.

 

[Wallace]

3M 36+ Fibre sanding discs on a 115mm grinder are impressive for metal removal and don’t need much laying into. Last well too.

 

[Bluemotion]

I still need to replace mine with an over the counter modern day tool after all that's said and still have no idea what to buy

 

[Memmeddu]

I still need to replace mine with an over the counter modern day tool after all that's said and still have no idea what to buy

Fein
Metabo
Flex
Whatever you choose just take an high end one
1200W is the perfect power for me
Perfect balance between power and controllability .
Better using both hands with any grinder

 

[Dcal]

I have a few 4.5 and 5 inch grinders, Draper Hilti, Metabo, Hitachi, and Makita.
They all get used and have different discs and wire wheels on them.
All get used and abused and have been fine.

My favorite and the the one I would keep if I had to have only one is the Metabo.
I like the way the guard can be moved and locked in place without the use of tools, restart lockout.
It's a very smooth running grinder but that also depends on the consumables you use as well. Use a cheap wire wheel and nothing runs smooth.

At the end of the day what this thread is telling us is most grinders are OK and nothing last forever.
Get one that you like and don't be too upset if you kill it.

 

[Eric the chicken]

I've a Bosch, had it over ten years but only used maybe 2/3 times a month and then generally with a slitting disc. When not in use put back in its case and then in cupboard, I not enough room to leave stuff out.

 

[premmington]

Grinders - I have loads in the workshop.

Mostly - Bosch/Makita/Dewalt - was buying about one new grinder a year.

But the two yellow Dewalt 5" ones with bigger motors we got - have lasted well. Not bought a new grinder for ages now.

I did do "grinder hospital" a few months ago - new power leads plugs - strip and clean a few of them out.

I think the big step in grinder lifespan for us - has been the move to "thin cutting discs" and big motors.

 

[zeppelin builder]

As title, 115mm 240v no matter what I buy the god damn things die within a year. It’s always the same thing, the armature starts growling bit by bit. I’ve had possibly 13 grinders in ten years ranging from £10 budget to £70,dewalt, Bosch blue Makita and more.
I just can’t find one that will do the duration of the warranty.

I use steel 4.5” cutting discs and those twisted nasty nasty wire wheels so it’s metal dust that I think is the killer. I can’t use any thing too vicious as I use it single hand and it needs to be narrow body with one hand easy switching.

Anyone on here using one everyday on metal that’s been impressive?

Metabo with variable speed
good for wire brushes and every thing

had mine over 20 years
supply cables and 2 set of brushes
only repairs

 

[Migmac]

That is impressive

Not as impressive now, had to replace the brushes a while back

 

[slim_boy_fat]

Thread resurrection alert!

 

[Sergei Slovenija]

Sometimes, I have thoughts, add a compressed air supply hose to the angle grinder. And redo the power cord by adding a quick electrical connector installed in the case. By type of Festool.