A new staircase.

[galooph]

One for you @galooph
I love my Surf, I don't know what I'd do without it!

Same here! Definitely a versatile workhorse

 

[dobbslc]

The staircase arrived on Thursday and we started work on Saturday morning cutting out the old one and widening the opening etc, the stairs went in and looked good but the levels were off!
When installed with the newel posts vertical like they should be the top nosing is 25mm too high

With the nosing level with the landing floor the newels are this far off vertical!

 

[nickk]

Can you tolerate shortening the string,make the first rise short slightly,or a compromise of 12 mm shorter and slightly off plumb.

 

[brightspark]

can you loose it by cutting down the the 1st step at the bottom by 25 mm . it will be hardly noticeable. i had to add 25mm to mine as they cocked the measurements up . no one ever notices it

 

[addjunkie]

Who measured it? Slide a tad off the bottom

 

[RichardM]

Has it been made over length and you trim the bottom off as above to suit?

 

[brightspark]

Has it been made over length and you trim the bottom off as above to suit?

its normaly the angle thats wrong

 

[gaz1]

when it was measured up the person who measured it included the floor boarding at top of the stairs but didnt minus the floor board

when the steps are installed they sit on top of the beams / support beams and become the floorboard top step

only way out is to take a 25mm trim off the bottom step since its the bottom step it wont matter much and wont affect the pass or the step up by too much compared a deep step as that is not what you want

newel post you level it as no floor is ever true not even a new floor or an old floor thats having a refit think yourself lucky that your not dealing with a sloping floor at the same time your fitting a new staircase in as it really does show how far out of true the floor is

the newal post you cant tell if its a full height post or a stump post that you trim down to suit what you want so cant state much on the subject

first pic untrimmed floor board top of ladders, 2nd pic trimmed floorboard and top step becomes the floor itself

 

[dobbslc]

Who measured it?

I did and it is spot on, 2660mm floor to floor but the stairs supplied are 2683mm They've agreed to supply a new staircase

 

[Robotstar5]

I did and it is spot on, 2660mm floor to floor but the stairs supplied are 2683mm They've agreed to supply a new staircase

Sounds like when they measured our kitchen with one of those fancy laser measures, one run was 3142mm but when I started to mark things out there was a problem so they came out and measured again and got 3546mm this time so they had to supply extra 400mm base and wall cabinets at no charge.

 

[gaz1]

I did and it is spot on, 2660mm floor to floor but the stairs supplied are 2683mm They've agreed to supply a new staircase

having that extra helps ive known floors go out before and id rather trim the staircase to fit

 

[addjunkie]

I did and it is spot on, 2660mm floor to floor but the stairs supplied are 2683mm They've agreed to supply a new staircase

Problem solved then, what they supplied is too big. Ive only ever done two before. But when its got to fit (windows, doors, carpets etc) where ever possible get the supplier to measure. I learnt an expensive way, with a window, it arrived and didnt fit.

 

[dobbslc]

having that extra helps ive known floors go out before and id rather trim the staircase to fit

Same here Gaz, 2-3mm is fine but 23mm is a bit too much!

Problem solved then, what they supplied is too big. Ive only ever done two before. But when its got to fit (windows, doors, carpets etc) where ever possible get the supplier to measure. I learnt an expensive way, with a window, it arrived and didnt fit.

I was panicking as I thought it was my fault at first! A quick go on the tape measure proved otherwise

 

[dobbslc]

Has it been made over length and you trim the bottom off as above to suit?

I got them to make the bottom step 23mm longer so when I fit the new wood flooring in the hallway the rise would be the same as the others. What they should have done (but didn't) is reduce the rise on each step to accommodate that and keep the same overall height.


Anyway the new stairs were delivered a day late due to the driver being sick so another morning wasted and mates favours used up for nothing

 

[mtt.tr]

I did and it is spot on, 2660mm floor to floor but the stairs supplied are 2683mm They've agreed to supply a new staircase

Normally cut the feet in the stringer and first step, this allows scribing

 

[dobbslc]

Not sure what you mean Matt. Could you explain it to a numpty please?

 

[mtt.tr]

Not sure what you mean Matt. Could you explain it to a numpty please?

The first step is cut to the floor to get the first step level in all planes.

If the floor is out at all and it's cut perfectly to height you are done for unless you start packing it out.


Off subject
It's disappointing that precut stairs are so cheap, I had to make a set in college and have made a small set of stairs for myself, other than that you don't get that involved in them any more.

I have a book just on making stairs interesting read.