1971 Saab 96

  1. CRB

    CRB Member

    Stroker Saabs mmmmm

    DKW/MZ fan here.

    If I could, I would, DKW Schnellaster.

    Lovely thing you have there.
     
  2. Cobbler

    Cobbler Codger bodger

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    A mate of mine ran a DKW F7 back in the late '60s I understand the engine was the forerunner of the Saab one. It was a bit of a oddball machine, went reasonably well, but the brakes were non existent
     
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  3. anjum Member

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    Better built as well!
    I really don't understand why the clamour for old fords is all about, e.g. escort MK1s were basic of the basics, ditto ford cortinas ....
     
  4. CompoSimmonite Member

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    With the two stroke Saab's you need the freewheel, that was carried over to the V4, for long downhills where you might be tempted to use the (limited) engine braking. The engine needs a constant flow of fuel, with pre mixed oil, to avoid seizing.Whilst there is sufficient at tickover when stationary going downhill at, say, 30 mph+ need more oil than tickover level of fuel provides so cure was the freewheel. Once you get used to it even on the V4 it's nice way to drive as long as decent brakes. No clutch needed for downchanges so even at 70 mph in fourth you can change down to first without clutch nor risking car standing on it's nose as the first gear doesn't engage until road speed drops to match the gear.
     
  5. armalites Member

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    I had an 85 900 16V turbo, not the S though with the big side panels when I was late teens, it was a great car, when the boost came online it was a real rush. At the time my mate an Astra GTE, we used to drive everywhere like idiots. I used do to a set of front tyres in a couple thousand miles. I remember getting back one night and living it ticking over to cool down and the whole of the exhaust manifold was glowing orange. I've still got a hankering for 9000 Carlsson. I had an ordinary 9000 that I bought with failed head gasket for £190, fixed it up and it ran like a trooper for 28k miles and I sold it for £250

    My parents had a 95 or 96 estate with 7 seats in the 70s
     
  6. slim_boy_fat

    slim_boy_fat Forum Supporter

    I used to own a Wartburg Knight back in the 70s, which was the successor afaik to DKW.

    3cyl 2-stroke engine which had three sets of points. :whistle: It had one of the most comfortable sets of seats I've encountered in any car, then or since. I drove it into the front of a lorry and despite being hugely strong it died, but I didn't.......:p To this day, I reckon the 'egg-shaped' separate chassis saved my life.
     
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  7. melle Member

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    Nice to see your project here too!
     
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  8. Rannsachair

    Rannsachair Forum Supporter

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    After too many weeks working on other folks cars am finally back to working on the saab - scraping of underseal and grinding out some poor patches that someone has done in the past. still seems pretty good compared to most cars of its era.

    front passenger wing:
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    front corner of drivers wing:
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    Small hole into passenger compartment too:
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    so a little cutting and welding coming up....
     
  9. anjum Member

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    That doesn't look so bad, especially when you consider the age of the Saab.
     
  10. Rannsachair

    Rannsachair Forum Supporter

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    Been doing a bit more stripping down before the welding begins -

    Rear screen and headlining out:
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    Engine bay stripped out - steering rack and throttle mechanism out:
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    Steering column and rest of interior out:
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    Worst bits are wher the bulkhead meets the floor pan:
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    Just to finish taking of the rear wings and the the clutch and brake pedals....getting there!
     
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  11. melle Member

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    That looks awfully familiar... good luck, there's no going back now I learnt. ;)
     
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  12. jpmillermatic

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    wow, looks like a complete tear down.....very cool motor and valve covers. the rust actually does not look that bad....

    JP
     
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  13. melle Member

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    They're pretty straightforward cars to weld on. I find the panel diagram from the parts book very helpful; sometimes it's worth removing panels by drilling the spot welds to get better access to certain areas.

    How are your front and rear glass surrounds? I need to fix them on my 96 sooner rather than later as both leak in more than one place. On the 95 I've removed the complete fresh air box for better access to the firewall: http://www.saab-v4.co.uk/speedball/topic.asp?topic_id=3027&whichpage=3
     
  14. Rannsachair

    Rannsachair Forum Supporter

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    Thanks for that Melle, the rear window is pretty good, one small hole:
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    The front has been bodged in the past:
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    I never thought of removing the complete panel, thought I could get at the bits behind it from the dash area as all interior is out.
     
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  15. melle Member

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    Both the bulkhead and the air box on the 95 were in quite bad nick, I mainly removed the panel to be able to do a proper job on the air box grilles. The bulkhead on the 96 was even worse, but when I repaired that a long time ago I had no clue and I completely hacked up the airbox. It's structurally sound, but I don't dare share a picture here as it looks horrible. I'm very tempted to graft in a completely new bulkhead top half when I do the screen surround, but I'm afraid I have other priorities at the moment. I recently did the left rear shock and spring mount on the 96: http://www.saab-v4.co.uk/speedball/topic.asp?topic_id=31068 (scroll down, I can't link to a specific post on the V4 forum).
     
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  16. Rannsachair

    Rannsachair Forum Supporter

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    Yikes, you had some serious rust, I think mine is relatively good, worst area is the bulkhead. Though its in much better condition now at 45 years old than my last Ford Escort when it was 10 years old!
     
  17. TD4 Forum Supporter

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    My wife drives a 1998 Saab 9-3 ragtop 2ltr.automatic beautiful car to drive,61,000 on the clock, almost silent when stopped. My much newer Land Rover has far fewer refinements and very noisy. Hard to understand how they went out of business. Malcolm.
     
  18. melle Member

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    GM Saabs were basically overpriced Vauxhalls... This is an observation, not an insult. ;)
     
  19. Rannsachair

    Rannsachair Forum Supporter

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    Strip down pretty much complete, that's the rear wings off
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    and the handbrake plus odds and ends.
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    Does not look too bad.
     
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  20. Rannsachair

    Rannsachair Forum Supporter

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    Well work had stalled for a while, found out the gearform on the steel timing gear I had picked up was wrong - difference between the V4 and V6 engines - so I now have a Quaife V6 timing gear to dispose off!

    So new timing gear set has arrived:
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    Also picked up the parts to convert it from 1500 to 1700:
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    I have also sourced a diaphragm clutch conversion with flywheel.

    So hopefully will get some time to get it all setup....
     
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