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I have been looking at these scissor lifts, I think the are more stable than they first look. And they are quite compact if you look at the dimensions.
http://www.automotechservices.co.uk/products/as-7630-mobile-scissor-lift/
www.quickjack.com
http://www.automotechservices.co.uk/products/as-7630-mobile-scissor-lift/
www.quickjack.com
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i think im going to be ambitious and try making one of the hamer type lifts...
wont be soon as im going to have to buy the steel in batches, but ive got welders capable of good strong welds on that steel and im confident in my ability to make good welds on that thickness...
wont be soon as im going to have to buy the steel in batches, but ive got welders capable of good strong welds on that steel and im confident in my ability to make good welds on that thickness...
This is something I've been wrestling with for a few years.
I've thought about the see-saw display type ramps but they are big and bulky to store.
A 2 or 4 post lift would need to be in the middle of my double garage so that the car's roof went up into the peak of the roof (where I currently have a loft space). I wouldn't be able to get two cars in there side-by-side any more because of the posts.
A single post lift is mega expensive (second hand ones pop up cheap because the load nuts wear at an impressive rate and are expensive to replace). They also pretty much need to go against a wall so access to one side of the car is near nil.
I've never liked the idea of the Hamer lift. How do you raise the thing? do you have to run laps around it doing one click at a time on the jacks till the car is at height? As for dismantling and storing it - I can see it easily taking an hour to have the thing put together and the car in the air. The usual decision would likely be "stuff that, I'll put it up on a couple of axle stands". By the time you wish you'd assembled the lift the car's in bits and can't easily be moved out of the way to assemble the lift and then shoved back on it.
A mate has a platform that he lifts with a tele-handler type forklift and then legs slot on each corner - fine if you live on a farm but no good even with a garage the size of mine.
The kwik-lift looks OK but doesn't really give much of a lift. I can imagine it coming apart fairly easily though and not taking huge amounts of room flat packed. I wonder if it could be tweaked to allow it to be raised further one end at a time after the vehicle is on it?
A flush mount full rise scissor lift would be my ideal I think but they ain't cheap (at least for a good quality non-wobbly one) and require groundworks to install.
I recently made some wheel stands sort of a copy of some that I saw a video of on here. Two wooden blocks with a flat steel platform between them (box section perimeter and tread plate). The blocks are high enough and wide enough apart so that a trolley jack can be put under the platform. For the moment I jack the vehicle up to shove them under the wheels. From there you raise the platform with the trolley jack and stick an additional block under each side.
Lessons learned - the blocks need to interlock like Lego as they can slide when you are raising one of the other wheels (maybe a non-friction surface would do the job - like sticking some rough sandpaper to the tops of the blocks).
I need to get a move on and make the ramps so you can drive up onto them as the time consuming bit is initially getting the wheel high enough to get them under it - beyond that raising the car is a doddle. They aren't as high as the traditional drive-on ramps so less scary (in fact I just drive the Discovery off them at the moment if it's been the patient).
I need to make a second pair so I can raise the car on the flat without having to use axle stands at the other end.
You can still easily lift one corner and shove an axle stand underneath if you want a wheel free after you've used them.
I've thought about the see-saw display type ramps but they are big and bulky to store.
A 2 or 4 post lift would need to be in the middle of my double garage so that the car's roof went up into the peak of the roof (where I currently have a loft space). I wouldn't be able to get two cars in there side-by-side any more because of the posts.
A single post lift is mega expensive (second hand ones pop up cheap because the load nuts wear at an impressive rate and are expensive to replace). They also pretty much need to go against a wall so access to one side of the car is near nil.
I've never liked the idea of the Hamer lift. How do you raise the thing? do you have to run laps around it doing one click at a time on the jacks till the car is at height? As for dismantling and storing it - I can see it easily taking an hour to have the thing put together and the car in the air. The usual decision would likely be "stuff that, I'll put it up on a couple of axle stands". By the time you wish you'd assembled the lift the car's in bits and can't easily be moved out of the way to assemble the lift and then shoved back on it.
A mate has a platform that he lifts with a tele-handler type forklift and then legs slot on each corner - fine if you live on a farm but no good even with a garage the size of mine.
The kwik-lift looks OK but doesn't really give much of a lift. I can imagine it coming apart fairly easily though and not taking huge amounts of room flat packed. I wonder if it could be tweaked to allow it to be raised further one end at a time after the vehicle is on it?
A flush mount full rise scissor lift would be my ideal I think but they ain't cheap (at least for a good quality non-wobbly one) and require groundworks to install.
I recently made some wheel stands sort of a copy of some that I saw a video of on here. Two wooden blocks with a flat steel platform between them (box section perimeter and tread plate). The blocks are high enough and wide enough apart so that a trolley jack can be put under the platform. For the moment I jack the vehicle up to shove them under the wheels. From there you raise the platform with the trolley jack and stick an additional block under each side.
Lessons learned - the blocks need to interlock like Lego as they can slide when you are raising one of the other wheels (maybe a non-friction surface would do the job - like sticking some rough sandpaper to the tops of the blocks).
I need to get a move on and make the ramps so you can drive up onto them as the time consuming bit is initially getting the wheel high enough to get them under it - beyond that raising the car is a doddle. They aren't as high as the traditional drive-on ramps so less scary (in fact I just drive the Discovery off them at the moment if it's been the patient).
I need to make a second pair so I can raise the car on the flat without having to use axle stands at the other end.
You can still easily lift one corner and shove an axle stand underneath if you want a wheel free after you've used them.
I keep thinking about making some like these
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FULL-LENG...742605?hash=item41ac9b71cd:g:ahEAAOSwBahU3KHj
could sink them into the floor so can still use the **** above them, bit enough for work vans to go on, and look pretty stable
I'd buy some if they were cheaper but £5,000 is a bit steep for something I won;t really use that much
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FULL-LENG...742605?hash=item41ac9b71cd:g:ahEAAOSwBahU3KHj
could sink them into the floor so can still use the **** above them, bit enough for work vans to go on, and look pretty stable
I'd buy some if they were cheaper but £5,000 is a bit steep for something I won;t really use that much
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This is where i want to take some time and think about an electric lifting process...maybe a hamer lift crossed with project binky's Jig
I have also got to te point where I do t do work unless it's urgent now so an hour to get set up is better to me than a few days in my back because I haven't got space under the car to get anything done
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If what ever you get has to go through the house to be stored it's ramps of some sort only, anything g else is going to be hefty and awkward to move around
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the hamer style lift breaks donw into lengths of box section which looks ideal
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I bought a cheap car transporter trailer (£400) for a house move and then noticed it was tall enough to drive the car onto it and slide underneath with a lot of room to spare. Middle of it is open so easy to sit up and get to the underside. What about a tipper trailer with the same sort of hole in the centre?
Summat like this and then put an open bed on it?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/tipping-t...637d936&pid=100005&rk=1&rkt=6&sd=322166204169
Summat like this and then put an open bed on it?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/tipping-t...637d936&pid=100005&rk=1&rkt=6&sd=322166204169
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Storage is the only problem with something like that
Still won't get it high enough to allow working standing underneath it.
In fact for sensible home use I don't think it's possible.
My brother in law has a scissor ramp and it's good for wheel and bearing work but underside not much use.
The best way IMHO is to build a good solid version of the ramp with jacking rams that a guy on her shared his design with us.
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Sitting underneath on a rolling stool would be suitable...just not lying on the gravel on my back
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He has no land where he could dig a pit, only 1 allocated parking space
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i like the 4 poster idea however even with wires they can go wrong
heres a vid either caused by user or be maker of the lift
a 4 poster wire one could be made using the 1200lb rachet winch
the scissor ones are more like quick check get out from under there in my eyes
heres a vid either caused by user or be maker of the lift
a 4 poster wire one could be made using the 1200lb rachet winch
the scissor ones are more like quick check get out from under there in my eyes
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Ah, I didn't read that part.
