Lidl Plasmas Coming Soon!

[Barking Mat]

They're in:

Parkside Plasma Cutter - at Lidl UK

Parkside Plasma Cutter - Durable, powerful and compact Electronically controlled, quiet and even plasma jet For precise and clean cuts through material up

www.lidl.co.uk

 

[JOEPRO]

I had got this idea seeing the adds a couple years back but never could get one in a Lidl in NI. As said here they likely only got a handful in and they would have been gone quickly.

I was also unsure of the build quality etc and at the time they had no pilot arc.

I went for a Stahlwerks one which works great but don't use it often at all. Now I have better power supply to garage I'll be using it more.



Cuts 14mm IIRC

 

[Barking Mat]

How come you guys get 33% off?

Brexit ?

 

[Gragson]

I think there is a thread about that on here somewhere..
The uk version comes with a 13a 3-pin plug fitted and is down-tuned to 30a output.
Euro version has a 15a plug and outputs 40a.

If you have a 16a socket you can change the plug and open up the machine and just twiddle a pot to get 40a out of it.

I'm not sure if they change/upgrade any other components on the 40a version but seeing (as above) that the uk price is more than elsewhere I doubt they would bother having different specs if it was just a case of setting the machines to suit the local supply.

I think the inbuilt compressor version is 40a (and comes with a blue 16a plug) so they might also do that with the normal one in the uk at some stage?

Yes you're right, The internal compressor one has the 16a plug and has the 40a quoted cutting thickness.

But i reckon the internal compressor one offered in UK could have been a bit different/better, It was sold under their "Performance" range probably why the £150 mark back then. No idea where they went with that range.
Glad I got it even at 150, I'm really happy with it, works well on HF or pilot arc torches.

 

[cr500dom]

Do I buy one next Thursday to assist building my car rotisserie?

What a stupid question to ask on here...

I bought one of £80 ones, last time, just because Id missed out on them 1st time round.
Its still in its box and never been fired up, but its there when I need it

 

[Pete.]

I tweaked the pot on my 30a one and still use the 3 pin plug. Use it quite regularly and it's been solidly reliable.

 

[Onoff]

I tweaked the pot on my 30a one and still use the 3 pin plug. Use it quite regularly and it's been solidly reliable.

When you do it do you then measure anything to Indicate an increase in "usable" current?

 

[Pete.]

When you do it do you then measure anything to Indicate an increase in "usable" current?

Nope I used the good old trial and error method. I was getting a raggedy cut and turned it up until the cut improved then stopped.

 

[Fishyboy]

But i reckon the internal compressor one offered in UK could have been a bit different/better, It was sold under their "Performance" range probably why the £150 mark back then. No idea where they went with that range.
Glad I got it even at 150, I'm really happy with it, works well on HF or pilot arc torches.

Hi Gragson,
I've got the Parkside PPSK40A1 and have been looking in to a pliot arc torch that would plug and play with that machine. Do you know the make and model Pilot Arc torch works with that machine?
Phil

 

[Gragson]

Hi @Fishyboy
I got the Parkside one from Germany via a mate which was sold separately as an option. I've just had a look and they don't have any now or coming up next week. Neither on their Parkside on line option - https://www.lidl.de/c/garten-ab-27-02/a10017904?channel=online&tabCode=Only_Online

There are posts in this thread on how you could potentially make one, I think @Turbo and others have posted on that.

Thing is, now that they are doing a UK version with pilot arc torch, I would guess they are holding them as service items - or to be released also in future?

Sorry I can't help more on a straight source plug and play - I could ask my mate in Germany to put in a Lidl enquiry if Parkside are looking to sell them separately in the near - my German is not that good - calling @25.4_mechanic also in case he could enquire?

 

[25.4_mechanic]

calling @25.4_mechanic also in case he could enquire?

... what can I do for you, mate, what's the question?

Carsten

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EDIT:

Is this it?


PARKSIDE® Plasma cutter "PPS 40 B3", 4-4,5 bar

Cutting current: 15-40 A
Material thickness: up to 12 mm

✓ No grinding of the interface necessary
✓ With 3 interchangeable torch attachments
✓ For precise and clean cut-offs

€ 165.00


PARKSIDE® Plasma cutter "PPS 40 B3", 4-4.5 bar


Features

- Robust and powerful compact unit
- Electronically controlled, smooth and even plasma jet
- For precise and clean cuts up to 12 mm material thickness
- Suitable for cutting sheet steel, stainless steel, aluminium, copper and iron
- Infinitely adjustable cutting current (15 to 40 A)
- High-quality cutting torch with plastic handle
- Non-contact cutting due to pilot ignition - reduces wear of the torch nozzle
- No grinding of the interface necessary
- 2.5 m cutting cable with replaceable torch attachments
- Earth cable (2 m) with strong clamp
- 2 m compressed air hose with quick-connect system ("QuickConnect")
- Compatible with commercially available compressors (e.g. PARKSIDE PKO 500 A1)
- Rear compressed air connection incl. pressure gauge and pressure reducer
- Overload protection by thermal cut-out with indicator light
- Housing made of painted sheet steel with ergonomic carrying handle


Included accessories: 3 torch covers (1 pre-assembled), 3 electrodes (1 pre-assembled), compressed air hose with quick-connect system ("Quick-Connect"), spacer (pre-assembled), 1 earthing cable


Technical data

Cutting current: 15-40 A
Cutting capacity: copper 1-4 mm / stainless steel 1-8 mm / aluminium 1-8 mm / iron 1-10 mm / sheet steel 1-12 mm
Working pressure: 4-4.5 bar
Rated voltage: 230 V / 50 Hz
Mains cable length: approx. 2 m


Material Steel
Dimensions approx. 341 x 116 x 237 mm
Weight approx. 4.4 kg

 

[hotponyshoes]

If the pilot arc torch is now available with the machine in the uk then might be worth enquiries to lidl about buying one as a spare part.

If they can't supply it I'd think twice about lidl kit. Appreciate that it's a cheap machine with a 3yr warranty but if you drive over the torch on the day of purchase and can't get a replacement it's not much good!

 

[Gragson]

what can I do for you, mate, what's the question?

.. what can I do for you, mate, what's the question?

Yo Carsten, is it possible to ask Lidl or Parkside if they have plans to offer the pilot arc torch as a separate item for sale as they used to do in Germany? cheers Chris

 

[25.4_mechanic]

Yo Carsten, is it possible to ask Lidl or Parkside if they have plans to offer the pilot arc torch as a separate item for sale as they used to do in Germany?

Help me here, Chris, are you saying the torch alone is available in GER?

I couldn't find it as a product in their online shop ...
(we're no regulars in Lidl shops, we don't like it there and we can't get products we like ...)

As for their plans for the UK-market:
I think that they are completely independent companies and I am unsure whether this knowledge is available here at all.

I know someone whose daughter studied at Lidl&Schwarz AG and is probably still working there - let's see if anything comes of it ...

... not much hope ...

Carsten

 

[Gragson]

@25.4_mechanic Hi Carsten, Thanks for looking, as Lee says above, they may well start selling the pilot arc torch separately in UK now they are selling the plasma unit with pilot arc.

They did sell them separately in Germany at least, 5 meters and quite nice for just 30euro, but does not look like an option now.

I know what you mean about Lidl, food wise I was surprised what little options they had to the few I went to in Germany and Austria, lots of bulk stuff but not proper food shopping, they are a bit better here but still a bit strange compared to the big general super markets. Cheers Chris

 

[DAPPH]

Brexit ?

The 16 amp plugged 40 amp cutting with internal compressor and decent torch are our standard form it seems , the EU one appears to be a considerably lesser beast .

I tweaked the pot on my 30a one and still use the 3 pin plug. Use it quite regularly and it's been solidly reliable.

On the 16 amp plugged version I've got , I slipped in into my caravan converter short adaptor lead , running off a 13 amp fuse on a 27 amp ring circuit . It cuts beautifully but I did have to increase the air pressure to 30

 

[DAPPH]

Go back through the thread and IIRC there is a post by me with the LIDL contact details on it .

 

[Onoff]

The 16 amp plugged 40 amp cutting with internal compressor and decent torch are our standard form it seems , the EU one appears to be a considerably lesser beast .

Think I'll give it a miss this time as no internal compressor.

 

[25.4_mechanic]

The 16 amp plugged 40 amp cutting with internal compressor and decent torch are our standard form it seems , the EU one appears to be a considerably lesser beast .

Think I'll give it a miss this time as no internal compressor.

That one is also on offer - whether this is a sign that it will soon be available in your shops too ... I don't know ...


PARKSIDE PERFORMANCE® plasma cutter with integrated compressor "PPSK 40 A1

Working pressure: 4-4,5 bar
Rated voltage: 230 V / 50 Hz
Cutting current: 15-40 A

✓ With integrated compressor
✓ Also ideal for mobile use
✓ Infinitely adjustable cutting current
Delivery: Available for immediate delivery! In 3 working days with you, 90 days free return shipping

€ 219.00

PARKSIDE PERFORMANCE Plasma Cutter with Integrated Compressor "PPSK 40 A1

Features

With integrated compressor - external compressed air supply not required
Completely pre-assembled and ready for immediate use
Ideal for mobile use - compact design and low weight
Electronically controlled, smooth and even plasma jet
For precise and clean cuts up to 12 mm material thickness
Suitable for cutting steel, iron, stainless steel, aluminium and copper
Infinitely adjustable cutting current (15 to 40 A)
High-quality 2.5 m cutting cable with replaceable torch attachments and removable roller guide
Earth cable (2 m) with strong clamp
0.5 m compressed-air hose with quick-connect system ("Quick-Connect")
Active electric fan cooling
Overload protection by thermal cut-out with control lamp
Painted sheet steel housing with ergonomic carrying handle
Additional compressed air inlet for alternative compressed air supply via external compressor

Accessories included: 2 burner caps (1 pre-assembled), 2 electrodes (1 pre-assembled), 1 roller guide, compressed-air hose with quick-connect system ("Quick-Connect")

Technical data
Cutting method: Plasma jet, electronically controlled
Cutting current: 15-40 A
Max. Cutting capacity: steel 12 mm / iron 10 mm / stainless steel 8 mm / aluminium 8 mm / copper 4 mm
Compressed air supply: via integrated compressor
Working pressure: 4-4.5 bar
Rated voltage: 230 V / 50 Hz

Material: Sheet steel
Dimensions: approx. 341 x 223 x 244 mm
Weight: approx.11 kg
Electromagnetic compatibility: Class A

 

[GRW]

Dumb questions time (it'll become obvious I know very little about plasma cutters).

1. Pilot Arc. This is a good feature & means you can light the arc flame without needing it to touch/scratch it on the metal you want to cut, yes?

2. If the torch can be lit without contact & in free air - does this mean that you could use it to say heat up seized nuts to free them (like you would with oxy or MAPP gas)?

3. If you have a compressor (I have 2, one being a portable 100L belt-drive), then the lack of an on-board air compressor doesn't create any problems or significant negatives?

4. Can you use a PC to cut out corroded metal on the vehicle realistically & practically, & without torching the thing?

Ta muchly.

G.