Bought myself a V8 jaaaaaaag

[GavJ]

Aluminium body? You mean silver?

No Aluminium, it was red the latest XF body is made from aluminium, model name X260. The bigger XJ is the same. Not 100% ally but chasis & body is.

Jaguar XF (X260) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[rtcosic]

Yup.
X350/8, X260, X150 and X152 aluminium.
X300's, X200's, X250, X100 steel.

 

[minimutly]

No Aluminium, it was red the latest XF body is made from aluminium, model name X260. The bigger XJ is the same. Not 100% ally but chasis & body is.

Jaguar XF (X260) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

My apologies - you learn something every day!

 

[Am333rcr]

i have a wee baby rover 3.5v8 not in a jag. i dont care it has a fuel gauge like a window wiper. i dont care

 

[Farside]

Oddly Mr Google is struggling to find complete specifications of the Super grades from any of those three suppliers, beyond compliance with EN 228.

Intrigued by the Top Tier Gasoline program (sic) in the US, I sent a few queries off to major European brands, as I simply wanted to know which brands were cleaner burning and might do my injuns no harm.
Nada, nothing, zilch was the sum total of their replies, as far as information content went. All them spouted BS about conforming to the EU standard.
Google Top Tier Gasoline and you'll find some interesting stuff about it.

 

[Matrixx]

I'm been using it for years and the car runs fine on it?

From what i understand (Read in several forums), Asda import the fuel from Russia, and can contain some chemicals that you don't want to burn in engine. but that may have changed now. I am going back a few years.

 

[slim_boy_fat]

From what i understand (Read in several forums), Asda import the fuel from Russia, and can contain some chemicals that you don't want to burn in engine. but that may have changed now. I am going back a few years.

Never heard of that one, but if it's true it's taking an incredibly long time to manifest as an engine problem.

 

[Matrixx]

Explanation? Rated by whom? Link?

The additive packs aren't that different and the base fuel comes from the same primary terminal in each area.

Or are you basing that on the housekeeping variations in your area?

Oddly Mr Google is struggling to find complete specifications of the Super grades from any of those three suppliers, beyond compliance with EN 228.

Tesco provides the most useful statement, supporting my statement above:

All fuel sold in the UK must conform to the same British Standards. For reference, they are BS EN 228:2012 for Unleaded and BS EN 590: 2013 for diesel. With base fuel the same standard across the country, the difference between retailers then comes down to the additives that are blended into the base fuels before going into tankers and off to the forecourt. We can’t comment on other retailers but can tell you that we blend additives into all of our fuels: Tesco Unleaded, Tesco Diesel and Tesco Momentum99.

, there were some long discussions on piston heads as well.
Probably out dated now.
its only the additives that make the difference. same with engine oil.

 

[rtcosic]

From what i understand (Read in several forums), Asda import the fuel from Russia, and can contain some chemicals that you don't want to burn in engine. but that may have changed now. I am going back a few years.

The UK imports nearly 20% of diesel from Russia (or did) and whilst it met specifications the QC was a bit 'flexible'.

No MoGas though.

So I would love to see the primary sources for this.

Or are you getting confused with the silicone contamination of one of the supermarket's Rotterdam blend plant imports into the South-East a few decades ago?

, there were some long discussions on piston heads as well.
Probably out dated now.
its only the additives that make the difference. same with engine oil.

Glad nothing material has changed in the industry since I retired then!

The engine oil thing is a little different though.

True enough if you are buying FULLY Synthetic at many pennies per teaspoonful or really cheap old school unbranded 'traditional' stuff at tuppence threefarthing a gallon.

Not so if you are buying SEMI Synthetic.

A long, pointless briefing on the games Exxon's lawyers engaged in over that term would bore even me!

 

[rtcosic]

Google Top Tier Gasoline and you'll find some interesting stuff about it.

The USA is a whole other world with respect to specifications and fuel quality!

Don't go there, you will cause me to revert to full didactic mode. The starlings would fall off the telephone wires due to the terminal boredom that would induce.

 

[Bullet2012]

The starlings would fall off the telephone wires

How did she get up there in the first place ?

 

[Matrixx]

I used to think fully synthetic oil, was man made.

From what I understand it is similar to petrol and its only the additives that make it fully synthetic? and the base oil comes from the same oil refineries.

I never buy semi synthetic, as the specs are open to interpretation ( as mentioned above), a tiny amount of additive could make it semi synthetic (please correct me if I am wrong).

 

[Farside]

True enough if you are buying FULLY Synthetic at many pennies per teaspoonful or really cheap old school unbranded 'traditional' stuff at tuppence threefarthing a gallon.

Not so if you are buying SEMI Synthetic.

A long, pointless briefing on the games Exxon's lawyers engaged in over that term would bore even me!

From what I understand it is similar to petrol and its only the additives that make it fully synthetic? and the base oil comes from the same oil refineries.

I'm buying Fully synth from Germany, as German law gets quite literal on what it is.
In the rest of Europe and the US, severely hydro-treated mineral oil can be sold as synthetic (note, not semi). This leads people to believe they're getting the good stuff, but it ain't necessarily so. Anyway, I'd quite happily put Shell Helix Ultra in my bike, as the gas-to-liquid process knocks out some good gear that for all intents and purposes seems to me to be just as good as the real thing for the uses I'll put it to. I'm not running jet turbines on it.

 

[Nick DV]

How did she get up there in the first place ?
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This may well go over a few heads!

 

[bricol]

I just buy Millers Oils to the spec my engines require.

Ran both integrales on their oils with no problems - swapped on a oil supplier suggestion to something else, and 56 miles later, bearing failure . . . rebuilt engine 3 yrs in on Millers . . .

 

[rtcosic]

I'm buying Fully synth from Germany, as German law gets quite literal on what it is.
In the rest of Europe and the US, severely hydro-treated mineral oil can be sold as synthetic (note, not semi). This leads people to believe they're getting the good stuff, but it ain't necessarily so. Anyway, I'd quite happily put Shell Helix Ultra in my bike, as the gas-to-liquid process knocks out some good gear that for all intents and purposes seems to me to be just as good as the real thing for the uses I'll put it to. I'm not running jet turbines on it.

Ah! another oil boiler? Or just well informed?

Exxon lawyers were responsible for the hydrotreated game. I thought it was for Group III semi rather than Group IV fully synthetic, but I'm a decade out of the game and my memory is fading.

I was only ever responsible for Group I production and we bought in Group II base oils. Group IV based products were imported as finished and packaged items from HQ.

Fully Synthetic Group IV is indeed 'manmade' polyalphaolefins.

This site and its links will explain all and send you to sleep in the process.

 

[Farside]

Ah! another oil boiler? Or just well informed?

Found myself going down the rabbit hole years ago, after a workmate put starship mileage on every bike he owned, but he had a cheap source of Mobil 1.
Reluctant to pay over the odds for synthetic, I adopted the policy of cheaper oil (but as good as I could find) changed regularly and that decision didn't let me down. The bikes' gearboxes shear even synth to zilch in 2000 miles or so.

Yep, the slimy lawyers and marketing weasels of Castrol started selling Gp III as fully synth, which eventually resulted in a decision in their favour in the US after a lot of kerfuffle.
They didn't get away with it in Germany, though.

 

[minimutly]

Can you get mobil1 now?
Used to be the oil of choice when I raced a mini. Unforgetful waft and related smoke when the turbo induced detonation turned a piston into alloy ball bearings..

 

[Farside]

Can you get mobil1 now?
Used to be the oil of choice when I raced a mini. Unforgetful waft and related smoke when the turbo induced detonation turned a piston into alloy ball bearings..

Still plenty around in different flavours now.

 

[Edward Teach]

I am a Jag fan, have been for years, had a few including a couple XF's. Last one was a 2015, 3.0d V6 sport. Cracking car except this one had some history, not sure what had happened to it but laquer flaking off in large sections, wheel bearing issues and more, it was less than 3ys old at the time, still under warranty. Jaguar UK refused to pay for paint and said it was "normal"... not impressed

Aluminium body so no problems with rust....... went for its 1st MOT, got an advisory on excessive corrosion on the rear subframe...... traded it in...... cant see me buying a modern Jag again

A friends Evo 9 FQ360,
He bought it at 12 months old,
Ex Ralliart managers car,
At about 3 years old, he had the problem, flaking lacquer on the bonnet,
They were having none of it,
A few years later, I tackled the problem,
It so happened, that the bonnet, had two further, full colour coats, under the flaking one
So assumed, the bonnet had been painted twice, in its first twelve months.
And painted badly