Moving a stone slab up stairs

[gaz1]

Too much talk and not enough action.

@mangocrazy Are you assembling the troops?

didnt see you offering to help when me and @Burdekin got the stone off the beach that id spotted whilst going for a walk

it was a nice size, nice shape and just dumped but i had a reuse for it

so what was dumped was going to be reused as im a strong believer of using the areas own materials

the left side stone it was fun getting it off the beach getting a wheelbarrow wheeling it across the field then up the slope across pebles and then into the house mix some cement put it into place pack it with wood as seen until set
then add water and cement so the stone and cement didnt dry out too fast and crack away from the stone

 

[Burdekin]

didnt see you offering to help when me and @Burdekin got the stone off the beach that id spotted whilst going for a walk

it was a nice size, nice shape and just dumped but i had a reuse for it

so what was dumped was going to be reused as im a strong believer of using the areas own materials

the left side stone it was fun getting it off the beach getting a wheelbarrow wheeling it across the field then up the slope across pebles and then into the house mix some cement put it into place pack it with wood as seen until set
then add water and cement so the stone and cement didnt dry out too fast and crack away from the stone

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Getting that upstairs would have been interesting. Bad enough getting it off the rocks at the beach and up the bank. Obviously was out of someone’s old fireplace and dumped there and was perfect for my fireplace.

 

[slim_boy_fat]

didnt see you offering to help when me and @Burdekin got the stone off the beach that id spotted whilst going for a walk

Mhhh, just a bit far from where I am these days . However, had I still been living in the Broch....

 

[JMS1972]

They don't need to be burly, just strong. Appearance is no indicator of strength.

That's true the one of the two lads who bought my milling machine was a right lanky skinny type. But he worked as a mechanic so it was all muscle.

Made short work of getting it through the house and onto a trailer.

 

[mangocrazy]

Too much talk and not enough action.

@mangocrazy Are you assembling the troops?

Not yet, I haven't got the support that it will sit on built yet and probably won't have until May/June time. But I do like to plan ahead and have what I'm going to do figured out. But I will update this thread as soon as anything moves...

 

[Repair man]

Hi,
I don't think it will be any trouble at all. if you use a rope I would wrap the rope around it like a parcel horizontal and vertical so there is no chance of it making a get away and get someone at the top withpiece of 4 x 3 across the opening, get it it stood up on it's end and hop it one step at a time, I dont think it will be as heavy as you think, a pair of good leather gloves will make it lighter. It was probably used for keeping meat and dairy cool before the advent of the fridge.

Still not found my Heater regulator for my Clarke 140e welder,

 

[gaz1]

and it would catch on every step as you go up the steps if you parcel wrapped it

until it wore through and snapped

 

[rtcosic]

..... But I will update this thread as soon as anything moves...

Ooh, goody. We'll be treated to a live-streamed video. Don't forget to post the link to it when the time comes.

It would be nice to give us all a notification the day before

 

[daf45]

How are you getting on with this??
Few things spring to mind. It is not an "easy" lift or job for two "body builders". The stairs are steep and narrow with turns, the person on the top will either almost be bent double or, have the slab scraping up their legs! Matey on the bottom will be holding most of the weight. Sorry if I'm stating the obvious. It's about team work and technique. It can be done but you'd be better asking a couple of removals "people" who are used to working together; and they'd be better using canvas webbing to tie around it to grab hold of than rope or any plasterboard handle contraptions. Plank up the stairs MAY help if the weight is manageable, otherwise a step at a time if the angle allows each rest safely. If i was closer I'd offer to supervise

 

[mangocrazy]

Good idea about contacting people who specialise in removals and moving heavy objects. You've summed up the difficulties very accurately. I'm leaning more and more to the 'one step at a time' approach as well. I'm not ready to try moving it yet, as I want to to take it out of the cellar and lay it in its intended resting place in one sequence, and that resting place isn't built yet. I intend to use it as a garden table top, sat on a brick plinth.

Sorry to raise everyone's interest prematurely, but it will be a few months yet.

 

[Robotstar5]

Good idea about contacting people who specialise in removals and moving heavy objects. You've summed up the difficulties very accurately. I'm leaning more and more to the 'one step at a time' approach as well. I'm not ready to try moving it yet, as I want to to take it out of the cellar and lay it in its intended resting place in one sequence, and that resting place isn't built yet. I intend to use it as a garden table top, sat on a brick plinth.

Sorry to raise everyone's interest prematurely, but it will be a few months yet.

We used PIC to move our welding cells from Birmingham to Telford, they have some serious kit like fork lifts rated at 40 tons! probably be a bit expensive for your move though

This was disconnecting one of the welding cells before they lifted and skated it outside to put on a low loader.

 

[slim_boy_fat]

probably be a bit expensive for your move though

And tricky getting down into that cellar.

 

[gaz1]

How are you getting on with this??
Few things spring to mind. It is not an "easy" lift or job for two "body builders". The stairs are steep and narrow with turns, the person on the top will either almost be bent double or, have the slab scraping up their legs! Matey on the bottom will be holding most of the weight. Sorry if I'm stating the obvious. It's about team work and technique. It can be done but you'd be better asking a couple of removals "people" who are used to working together; and they'd be better using canvas webbing to tie around it to grab hold of than rope or any plasterboard handle contraptions. Plank up the stairs MAY help if the weight is manageable, otherwise a step at a time if the angle allows each rest safely. If i was closer I'd offer to supervise

Good idea about contacting people who specialise in removals and moving heavy objects. You've summed up the difficulties very accurately. I'm leaning more and more to the 'one step at a time' approach as well. I'm not ready to try moving it yet, as I want to to take it out of the cellar and lay it in its intended resting place in one sequence, and that resting place isn't built yet. I intend to use it as a garden table top, sat on a brick plinth.

Sorry to raise everyone's interest prematurely, but it will be a few months yet.

it wont be body builders or removal guys as it will be guys that are used to lifting heavy ackward stuff

a pointer here measure check that you can get it through the corner steps as its going to be close at that point with point height and also edge height

if your not sure buy a plyboard or make a size frame up thats solid and try getting it up the stairs in one piece if you think its going to be ackward with that its sure as hell going to be a B...... with weight

handerling something that size is a git more so at point weight the top persons steadying it and the lower person balancing it
the bottom person takes the weight as it teeters over the step edge whilst the top person slides it into there hands before moving up the stairs
that stone slab will get out of balance fast being so wide and you will need a balancer on the steps

owner dosnt always want to pay for them to be removed hence why they get broken up or smashed or left in cellers

the original way they went in was through the celler window during building and they was slid into the building by man power

 

[mangocrazy]

it wont be body builders or removal guys as it will be guys that are used to lifting heavy ackward stuff

a pointer here measure check that you can get it through the corner steps as its going to be close at that point with point height and also edge height

if your not sure buy a plyboard or make a size frame up thats solid and try getting it up the stairs in one piece if you think its going to be ackward with that its sure as hell going to be a B...... with weight

handerling something that size is a git more so at point weight the top persons steadying it and the lower person balancing it
the bottom person takes the weight as it teeters over the step edge whilst the top person slides it into there hands before moving up the stairs
that stone slab will get out of balance fast being so wide and you will need a balancer on the steps

owner dosnt always want to pay for them to be removed hence why they get broken up or smashed or left in cellers

the original way they went in was through the celler window during building and they was slid into the building by man power

I'd envisage getting it out by standing it on its short side and then lifting it up edge on step by step. You would need some kind of sling (or possibly a wooden frame) that both blokes could use and synchronise the lifting on each step. In fact a sturdy wooden frame built around the slab with strategic lifting handles would probably be workable.

The only window into the cellar was the coal chute, which wouldn't have been big enough for a slab so I suspect it was more likely lowered in between the floor joists from the room above. It won't be coming out the same way...

 

[gaz1]

your forgetting the area i live in and yes they could/can be slid down the house wall coal chute before the coal chute stones was fitted

or slide down the stone slab coal hole

they certainly wasnt passed down through the joists as the olden days it wasnt done that way

 

[mangocrazy]

OK, I stand corrected. But I am definitely more concerned about how to get it out from the cellar rather than how it got down there...

 

[voipio]

Gaz1's idea of making a frame the same size as the stone, to see if that will fit up the stairs, is well worth doing. Could save a lot of hassle on the day when two strong blokes turn up to do the job, and can't cos it won't go round the corner, or up the stairs.

 

[gaz1]

personally i dont think your going to like the 200-300 bill just to get it out of the celler

ive done one and that was on straight celler with a turn at the bottom steps between 4 of us when i was younger

handerling them on edge is a git handerling them on stairs is another matter

 

[James1979]

There isn’t a way of opening up however it got in and just hoisting it out I take it?

Probably been thought of already but it occurred to me when I was reading Gazs post about how they got put in

 

[MattF]

Chuff me. You lot way overthink simple grunt & crack on jobs.