What happens in the garage stays in the garage

[8ob]

A few small unfinished/forgotten about projects of mine that have been festering in the back of a barn have surfaced , going to get them up and running so I will roll them up into one thread. A three ton digger that is being mongreled to suit forestry work, a 101 landrover service barge for repairng our kit on site and a Stalwart I have just dragged out from under a tree.

Got the 101 back to the yard, this is an ex Judge Dred landy that had one of those fiberglass body lashups you see in the film. Amazingly rust free.

Work done so far.

1.Junked the V8 petrol and four speed gearbox, fitted a 3ltr mazda/perkins with a five speed LT77 and transfer box, re configured the gear change and transfer box control levers.
2. Made up the props using wide angle UJ`s
3. Fitted a PTO to the transfer box.
4. Converted to power steering.
5. Fitted a hydraulic winch in the front
6. Mounted an atlas copco screw comressor and the buisness end of a 265 amp diesel arc welder that threw a rod in the back.
7. Front panel was trashed so made a new one and riveted it on.
8.Stripped all the years of MOD paint off.
9. Fitted some comfy low squab seats.
10 . Made some rims up using laser cut centers and bought in rims, fitted gurt tyres.

Lots to do still. All the kit to finish is just thrown in the back so first job will be to decant the contents and blow the dust off

 

[Shox Dr]

I'd love to have enough space, that I forgot what I had.

 

[Ashley Burton]

Looks like a good fun build!

 

[zzr1200]

A Hayter Welding Alternater from the Mighty Midget Range of welders, I love the alternater scream they make from the arc...

 

[God mode restorations]

A Hayter Welding Alternater from the Mighty Midget Range of welders, I love the alternater scream they make from the arc...

I still have one of those mighty midget alternator stick welders.

 

[zzr1200]

I still have one of those mighty midget alternator stick welders.

So do I, JLO powered, ear plugs recommend, if your close to the welder while welding, long leads an advanage...

 

[pedrobedro]

I used to drive a Hyster like that

 

[God mode restorations]

So do I, JLO powered, ear plugs recommend, if your close to the welder while welding, long leads an advanage...

Yes they do make some serious noise. But you do get a nice weld out of them.

 

[8ob]

The arc welder is causing a bit of a head scratch because it runs 3000rpm vs the hydraulic pump and the screw compressors 1500 rpm . The webster PTO splitters are all 1.1 ratio so unless webster do some step up gears I will have to belt or hydraulic drive the welder to get the revs up, there is no sense in running the engine at 3000rpm. Looks like the cab is going to be full of levers

 

[MattF]

I'd love to have enough space, that I forgot what I had.

I love how he says "small" too, then shows us that.

 

[Kayos]

I've always thought a FC would make an awesome van, I'd want a TD5 or a 6BT however

 

[zx9]

So you got a low compression V8 on SUs (?) and a LT95 looking for a new home?

 

[zzr1200]

The arc welder is causing a bit of a head scratch because it runs 3000rpm vs the hydraulic pump and the screw compressors 1500 rpm . The webster PTO splitters are all 1.1 ratio so unless webster do some step up gears I will have to belt or hydraulic drive the welder to get the revs up, there is no sense in running the engine at 3000rpm. Looks like the cab is going to be full of levers

Nifty lift use a 3000 rpm genny run of off a 1500 rpm engine, it's just the flow rate (gpm) through the genny hydraulic drive motor that you need to work out.

Nifty lift also use the oil flow to control the gennys output voltage by adjusting the flow rate hence altering rpm of the alternator...

Have word with Flowfit, they should be able to help.

https://www.flowfitonline.com

 

[rory1]

Zzr1100 - Wouldn’t altering the speed of the engine change the hz rather than the voltage output ?

 

[zzr1200]

Zzr1100 - Wouldn’t altering the speed of the engine change the hz rather than the voltage output ?

You don't alter the speed of the engine 1500rpm, it's the ratio between the gpm output rate of the hydraulic pump and a matched hydraulic motor with the required gpm input to the to turn the alternator at 3000rpm is whats required. The flow control valve only fine tunes the alternator rpm and yes possibly the Hz but I've seen steel erectors just wind the valve in to get that bit more for their nut guns...

 

[8ob]

Nifty lift use a 3000 rpm genny run of off a 1500 rpm engine, it's just the flow rate (gpm) through the genny hydraulic drive motor that you need to work out.

Nifty lift also use the oil flow to control the gennys output voltage by adjusting the flow rate hence altering rpm of the alternator...

Have word with Flowfit, they should be able to help.

https://www.flowfitonline.com

I am shying away from hydraulic drive for the welder for a few reasons, the twin pump you see in #9 is to serve the hydraulic reel, auxiliary and hydraulically driven generator unit below, on the front there is switchover that can used to divert to the hydraulic winch. Its needed because the welder unit has to be switched from weld to aux if the 110v side of things are used which is a ballache for combinations of welding/grinding etc.



So between the reel, hyd genny and winch the hydrauliic pump in post #9 is pretty much spoken for.






This thing has progressed further than my addled brain can remember Mounts for the webster pto gear are done which leaves the short shaft from gearbox pto to splitter to make up, short shaft then to make up for the screw compressor , mount the hydraulic pump on the splitter, make up shafts/ belt drive to the welder genny.






This is where the fun starts, the engine in the truck does not have a fixed speed govener. the gadget below is the unit that works with the compressor to tug the throttle on demand. Need to jockey a fixed speed set up onto the same cable so when the hydraulics and welder are running a constant speed is maintained.

 

[zzr1200]

Land Rover used to produce a manual quadrant rachet assembly that fitted in the centre under the dash clocks on Series L/R that attached to the throttle cross shaft in the engine bay....... ie: a mechanical hand throttle (pore mans cruise control...) couldn't you rig one up, if you can get a tachometer on the engine, or buy a cheap eBay electronic tacho and monitor the output shafts of the PTO/belt drive for the welder?

 

[8ob]

Land Rover used to produce a manual quadrant rachet assembly that fitted in the centre under the dash clocks on Series L/R that attached to the throttle cross shaft in the engine bay....... ie: a mechanical hand throttle (pore mans cruise control...) couldn't you rig one up, if you can get a tachometer on the engine, or buy a cheap eBay electronic tacho and monitor the output shafts of the PTO/belt drive for the welder?

Those hand throttles were also used to operated underfloor equipment like genny`s but they were linked to belt driven speedic unit that kept the engine at the constant rev irrespective of load. Fixed engine speed by throttle without one would die as soon as you strike up a welder. I have one of these but it wont cater for two different rpm requirements without readjusting.




I bought one of these and was wondering if it could be fooled via a vac servo actuator into maintaining two different engine speeds and working off some kind of air pressure switch when selecting the required pto . Need to get some leccy brains involved

 

[sako243]

Need to get some leccy brains involved

Want me to pop by one evening or Saturday? Bit busy over the next couple of weeks but could do after then?

 

[8ob]

Want me to pop by one evening or Saturday? Bit busy over the next couple of weeks but could do after then?

Brilliant

Bob