Think that is the one on amazonRohr do a few smaller cheaper welders that have had good reviews on here. I saw a Tig welder with a torch on the bay of evil earlier that was £169.99.
Ok, I know I'm looking at budget, but I found one that has HF start for 169 on Amazon, a Rhor, 12months warranty, UK plug, comes with torch etc...
May be worth a go?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0797XW3GT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_Y7NVFbGPWP5Q0
Clicked that link to Amazon and the memories came flooding back when I saw the message...
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...so I owned one. It was £139.99 when I bought it; the price seems to be going the wrong way. Been there; done that; no thank you. I'd be looking at the Sherman or something non-Rohr at least. Union Mart (who sell Rohr) give you £5 back for a five star review (I got the form when I received the welder). Be careful of that and those five start reviews like "quick delivery", "looks great", "husband is very happy" - yep, but who has actually used it.
There is one video about it on YouTube that I can see...
...so it does work I guess.
I never used the TIG function with the Rohr but did stick weld with it. Did it work? Yeah (for stick welding at least). But when it was on the shelf with a couple of other welders I never picking it after a week of ownership. I never got round to organising the gas so it just gathered dust. When stick welding its dial was very inaccurate for me (I compared what a DC ammeter said to the front display and it was a good bit off). I had to set the dial to 142 amps for a 3.2mm e6013.
I'm sure it would work (no guarantee!) for learning TIG. However, for an extra - what - £30? I'd be looking at the Sherman or something with downslope and post flow control - useful things to have and I think worth having. You'll just be back here in the new year asking how to avoid craters at the end of the TIG bead.
EDIT: And the Sherman has pulse too - great little bonus if you need it.
Get some e6013 2.5 electrodes. A good brand like Bohler, Esab or Lincoln will make things smoother, but the likes of Sifweld will still work ok.Cool, I think I'll go with that one, money better spent on something that has more longevity. He casts brass, copper, aluminium etc and is always experimenting, so this will have future versatility.
To get him going at Christmas, for stick welding, what would be the best size electrode? To make it easy?
I'm looking at the spec assuming it is ready to go out of the box for stick?
And I may then leave tig for a but, but if I wanted to say that up, I need gas, a regulator and tungsten?
Thanks for all the help
Chris
Get some e6013 2.5 electrodes. A good brand like Bohler, Esab or Lincoln will make things smoother, but the likes of Sifweld will still work ok.
Make sure he has a head-mounted helmet! The hand held ones are bin fodder. And some good thick welding gauntlets. Two hands on the business end will help no end... one hand on the holder, the other hand gently supporting the electrode.
the welder from weldes is shipped from Poland which I didn't realise and there is a two week delivery, which is quite close to Christmas
Hi, sorry to bring this up again, the welder from weldes is shipped from Poland which I didn't realise and there is a two week delivery, which is quite close to Christmas, just searching on eBay, there was this, has warranty, HF ignition, etc, no pulse, worth looking at?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/164500108221
I've already shared my experiences far and wide about Parkerbrand, needless to say avoid unless you are willing to accept it may or may not last a pack of rods, either way you have no comeback if it fails.
Should be before Christmas@www_weldes_de can you help confirm the delivery time for a Sherman 202p? Will it get to the UK in time for Christmas?
I do not see how this can claim to do tig when there is no way to introduce gas to the system.
I would buy one with that comes with a tig torch Chris
You need lots of things to get up and running with TIG. I think this is everything...
Regulator (assuming you are getting a rent-free bottle from HobbyWeld or similar and not a BOC account)...
https://www.weldequip.com/argon-regulator-se.htm?cat2=24
Flowmeter...
https://www.weldequip.com/flowmeter.htm?cat2=24 (not absolutely required but well worth it as you want just the right flow of gas and gas is expensive too)
You can get the above and still have gas flow issues. This goes over the torch and shows what is reaching the weld (optional though)...
https://www.weldequip.com/gas-flow-tester.htm?cat2=24
Tungstens (required)...
https://www.weldequip.com/tungstens.htm (pk of 10. Go for 1.6mm initially but you may want to get 2.4mm later).
https://www.weldequip.com/mild-steel-tig-rods.htm (Assuming you're welding mild steel at the beginning? Get 1.6mm rod).
Hose to go from the regulator/flowmeter to the welder (required):
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3M-Gas-h...834688&hash=item43e99476fd:g:QkwAAOSwMQBaFFhZ
It's got two 3/8 BSP connectors and I believe from the YouTube video of the model on the turnable, the Sherman has a push on connector. You'll want to cut off one of the 3/8 BSP connectors and use a jubilee clip (required) to tighten on to the gas port on the back of the welder. Probably quite a small jubilee clip.
Then you'll need gas. 100% Argon. Google for welding gas suppliers in your area. Maybe find the local agent for HobbyWeld https://hobbyweld.co.uk/find-an-agent/. Hopefully there will be one on an industrial estate near by (perhaps part of an auto-parts store). Ring ahead and ask if they have 100% Argon in stock. Head over, maybe take ID with an address on it (?), fill out a form, pay for the deposit and first full bottle, get your bottle, put in the back of the car, look down at your hands and wish you had worn gloves! Hang on to the paperwork because you'll need it if you want that deposit back when you close the account.
Speaking of gloves... your casting gloves are no good. You need nimbleness. Get some from eBay. Don't get the rock bottom price ones. If you/your son has smaller hands search eBay for "tig gloves size 8" and buy that size from the menu.
The welder will come with a European plug. I'd suggest cutting it off and putting on a 16 amp plug. Example:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/16-AMP-P...ook-Up-Motorhome-Caravan-Camping/373189861787
Assuming you don't have a 16 or 32 amp socket in the place already (??)...put the one with the three metal pins on the cord to the welder and wire the other up to a short length of 3 core flex with a standard 3-pin 13 amp plug on the other (it's called a fly lead). Sorry if this level of details is teaching grandma!
You'll be fine up to about 130-140 amps before the 13 amp fuse blows.
Remember to get a welding helmet. An auto-darkening one that works with TIG. I have a cheap one and it doesn't like the TIG arc and flashes on and off over and over. It was cheap. I think Santa is bringing me a nicer one.
Maybe a welding trolley but that can come later. Just don't leave it on the floor to get kicked and pick up dirt. And make sure the Argon bottle is secured to a wall or bench or something solid. You don't want to be knocking or pulling that over accidentally! Bungee cord a few times around it and strongly tied to the leg of the bench is the minimum.
I don't know what power tools you have already but you'll need to clean the steel (rust, paint, grease, mild scale from hot rolled steel). A flap disc on an angle grinder is good. Ideally you'll want to wipe the steel down with acetone too.
You'll need to grind the tungsten to a point and you can google how best you want to do that. Bench grinder or the same angle grinder with a flap disc could work - using a drill to hold the tungsten is a good idea to spin the electrode while it's being ground to a point. You cannot TIG weld with a blunt electrode. Does not have to be needle sharp but it needs a point and the angle affects the arc.
what are the colours for the tungsten electrodes?
do I need different filler rods for different metal, I would assume you do?