What Mill?

[RichardM]

I'd love it but haven't got the space.

Cheaper than a holiday in Cyprus, go and have a look
Some more info here.

Thiel duplex 159

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[Mikes]

Don't exclude the Elliot Omnimill if you want something good and heavy with a small footprint. Different to most other small mills.

 

[Pete.]

Just saw this on ebay, https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/175107639005?_trkparms=amclksrc=ITM&aid=111001&algo=REC.SEED&ao=1&asc=20160727114228&meid=c4c706dcb8054989b09f28bb7dcca488&pid=100290&rk=1&rkt=4&sd=175107639005&itm=175107639005&pmt=0&noa=1&pg=2060778&_trksid=p2060778.c100290.m3507
Not a machine I have heard of though looks a nice spec: and not to far from me, anyone familiar with them?
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It's a Deckel clone, same as my TOS but the Thiel looks more refined going by the pics. That one looks on the face of it to be a good example and I bet it's got a way to go on the price yet.

 

[JimmyS]

I see a mill on facebook near(ish) to me:

Edgwick Horizont & Vertical Mill (240v)

I've an Edgwick horizontal mill available that has a vertical head with it as well. Bought on a whim as I'd enjoyed using the ones at the engineering club but since I've had it all over done is cut...

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I know bugger all about mills though!

 

[Brad93]

Their gorgeous little things them centecs.

A nice little Elliott or Tom senior would be a good upgrade.

 

[Brad93]

It's a Deckel clone, same as my TOS but the Thiel looks more refined going by the pics. That one looks on the face of it to be a good example and I bet it's got a way to go on the price yet.

Oi, I was watching that too!

 

[MetalMonkey]

The Thiel looks nice, I think they had a similar design in their own right around the same time as Deckel, so not exactly a clone, more a twin - I think they ended up as part of Deckel.

Smaller than a bridgeport could be a bit tricky, tend to be very popular and the spindle options are never the best - not that R8 is either.

Off the top of my head:
Elliott omnimill as previously mentioned.
Town Woodhouse
Beaver Model A
Possibly an Adcock and Shipley 1ES with the bridgeport head mod?

 

[Rannsachair]

I see a mill on facebook near(ish) to me:

Edgwick Horizont & Vertical Mill (240v)

I've an Edgwick horizontal mill available that has a vertical head with it as well. Bought on a whim as I'd enjoyed using the ones at the engineering club but since I've had it all over done is cut...

www.facebook.com

I know bugger all about mills though!

Looks a bit bigger than I am looking for, though not seen the spec of one.

 

[JimmyS]

I think its same company as Herbert. I've never had the chance to play with a mill so know bugger all about them.

Its single phase oddly - would have thought it would have been 3phase with the size of the thing.

 

[RichardM]

Looks a bit bigger than I am looking for, though not seen the spec of one.

Have a look in that link I think the Eng manual has dims.

 

[Rannsachair]

Have a look in that link I think the Eng manual has dims.

That comment was on the Edgwick mill.
I had a look at the manual, looks like it weighs 1.1 tons thanks Richard.

 

[sako243]

I did spot a Tom Senior for sale near me in Carmarthen (Facebook) for perhaps £400. Quite happy to collect and palletise but @fizzy might be a better option.

 

[Rannsachair]

I did spot a Tom Senior for sale near me in Carmarthen (Facebook) for perhaps £400. Quite happy to collect and palletise but @fizzy might be a better option.

Thanks for the kind offer @sako243 I will see what happens with the Thiel as i do like spec of it.

 

[Rannsachair]

I'd love it but haven't got the space.

Cheaper than a holiday in Cyprus, go and have a look
Some more info here.

Thiel duplex 159

Thiel duplex 159 manuel merci à Veltman machines ( http://veltmanmachines.nl/ ) Thiel duplex 159 Manual in german merci à Veltman machines ( http://veltmanmachi

passion-usinages.forumgratuit.org

Been looking through the manual (in German) and see though the footprint is small the space require behind the machine for the top arm is quite significant:

I suppose mounting it on wheels would be an option.

@Pete. is your Deckel clone the same? I should stop looking at your thread, it is just convincing me how much I want one of these machines!

 

[Burdekin]

That's a lovely looking Centec!
I had a Harrison Horiz/Vert for about 30 years. Nice and sturdy. Table 30x8 inches and quite a small footprint.
30 International taper in both spindles.
My only gripe was the amount of daylight between the vertical head and the table, but I think most of the smaller machines have this problem.

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Good luck with the search!
Martin

I have a Harrison universal, the quality is very good. It's a lovely bit of engineering wouldn't hesitate in recommending them.

 

[fizzy]

Been looking through the manual (in German) and see though the footprint is small the space require behind the machine for the top arm is quite significant:
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I suppose mounting it on wheels would be an option.

@Pete. is your Deckel clone the same? I should stop looking at your thread, it is just convincing me how much I want one of these machines!

Seeing how much Centecs sell for you could have the Thiel and change!
Keep it on a pallet. Buy a cheap pallet truck. You can move it back and fore.

 

[RichardM]

The other one gives inches as well

 

[Rannsachair]

Not sure what happened to the Thiel for sale on ebay, the seller ended the listing early. I emailed a few questions on Saturday and got no reply.

 

[daedalusminos]

I'd been keeping an eye on this since it listed, contacted the seller last week regarding shipping. Didn't really answer my questions but advised I could have it there and then for £2400 incl delivery. So I guess that's what happened...but not to me!

 

[Pete.]

£2400 delivered was a fair enough price for that machine IMO. These days anyway.