Well that's a surprise from ebay!

[Kayos]

eBay went downhill once sellers stopped being able to leave negative feedback for buyers. Shifted everything too far over to the buyers side. I closed a profitable sideline once they did as scammers increased massively

 

[DAPPH]

What similar auction sites? I'm not aware of anything similar to eBay.

Put " auction sites like eBay " into your search engine , there are loads .

 

[JOEPRO]

What similar auction sites? I'm not aware of anything similar to eBay.

Excerpt from post #1 link and the very subject of this thread

The online marketplace, which had already removed such fees for fashion earlier this year amid increasing competition from rival sites such as Depop and Vinted, said the move should boost reselling and the customer experience at the same time.

 

[cheb]

I've a month to clear the odd stuff that's worth something but I can't sell on here then. Good to have an incentive.

I don't expect anything from a business except that they want to make the most they can out of their customers either in the short term or the long term. Meh, such is the nature of these things.

 

[Bki26]

Just got this email from ebay-

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Doesn't seem that great or clear here!

For example if I list an item for sale - do ebay then itemise and tack on their buyer protection amount on top of that? Seems more like a change to the fee structure only!!

And seems less than ideal that ebay want to "lock" funds due to private sellers until an item sold has been delivered. There are all sorts of legitimate reasons why a parcel may be delayed and I think it's unreasonable to hold funds back from a private seller for this. Surely receipt of valid tracking information confirming dispatch would be sufficient.

For the volume of used car parts I have listed ill just keep using it regardless but this will likely put private sellers off if I have understood that correctly.

You list item for x amount, ebay adds onto that the 4%+75p which buyer pays and you get the amount you listed the item for is what I think it means. Even if you the seller pay the fee it's still cheaper than the original 12%+30p before the fees were removed which everyone seems to have forgotten about.

For those worried about ebay holding payment until delivery just use royal mail 48 as cheaper than any other courier and tracked+£150 insurance, recorded the item working etc and then being boxed and taped up to cover your end.

 

[julianf]

The buyer sees a £100 hammer price.
The seller gets £95 (or whatever)

It's the same as it always used to be.

The eBay email specifically says something to the effect of "no surcharge for the buyer, all included in the hammer price".

So, again, it's just a re introduction of seller fees.

 

[julianf]

"when they see a price of £20 the £1.49 will already be included in the price"

Which is exactly the same as it always has been -

The buyer pays the hammer price.

The seller gets less than the hammer price.

 

[julianf]

Of course, with the reintroduction of fees, we will all have to deal with the messaging system cutting out phone numbers etc.etc. into the future.

Oh sevin ate, elevin atey ate...

(Etc)

Tedious

 

[ajlelectronics]

Of course, with the reintroduction of fees, we will all have to deal with the messaging system cutting out phone numbers etc.etc. into the future.

Oh sevin ate, elevin atey ate...

(Etc)

Tedious

Black, purple, grey, brown, brown, grey, grey

 

[6ply]

You list item for x amount, ebay adds onto that the 4%+75p which buyer pays and you get the amount you listed the item for is what I think it means. Even if you the seller pay the fee it's still cheaper than the original 12%+30p before the fees were removed which everyone seems to have forgotten about.

For those worried about ebay holding payment until delivery just use royal mail 48 as cheaper than any other courier and tracked+£150 insurance, recorded the item working etc and then being boxed and taped up to cover your end.

I sold every two weeks when offered an 80% discount on sellers' fees. If the full fee was 12% then 80% discount made it 2.4% plus 75p so not really much different. I will continue to sell on eBay as a private seller and declare any business-type sales in my tax return as I already do.

Despite the failings of eBay, it's still infinitely better than Facebook and the knobs and scammers that Marketplace attracts.

 

[Ubique]

Gave up selling on fleabay when they insisted on bank details, I've found Gumtree to be 'OK' for getting rid of random tat, if it doesn't sell on there, it goes in the scrap bin at work. Never considered selling my soul to FB for the 'benefit' of their wild-west sales platform....

 

[Bki26]

Royal Fail 48h is definitely not worth all the hype. Bought and paid for something on EBay on the 16th Dec. Had notification that it would be delivered RF 48h between 9:23 and 1:23 on the 20th Dec. Eventually delivered at 4.55 on the 30th December. First Delivery, no attempts, no missed . Go figure….

Any delivery service is gonna be slow the week before Christmas...

At least it actually shows up unlike most evri parcels lol

 

[Farside]

Must be really struggling if they're doing this... or loaded enough and realised the extent of their greed https://news.sky.com/story/ebay-selling-fees-are-scrapped-to-boost-to-reselling-13225638

Just had an email from them today to tell me they're including extra fees on private sellers' prices, but that's ok because they're included I won't notice them. That's wonderfully thoughtful of them.
Gee, thanks.
Commercial sellers' prices won't be increased, they say.
I reckon they're trying to reduce private sellers by slowly strangling them.

 

[Farside]

What similar auction sites? I'm not aware of anything similar to eBay.

Ebid - not as large but slowly growing. I've bought a few vintage photographic items from there, well priced and reliable sellers.
Last year or so I noticed there seemed be more of an uptick in the growth rate, possibly as a result of ebay sellers trying other venues.
Ebid doesn't attract the sheer numbers that ebay does though.

 

[beeRS]

Of course, with the reintroduction of fees, we will all have to deal with the messaging system cutting out phone numbers etc.etc. into the future.

Oh sevin ate, elevin atey ate...

(Etc)

Tedious

Or write your contact details down on a piece of paper and photograph it. Then attach photo to your message.

 

[Robotstar5]

Or write your contact details down on a piece of paper and photograph it. Then attach photo to your message.

When messaging about stationary engine stuff I have sent a useful pic of a fuel tank

 

[ukracer]

• We recently made changes to our fee structure so it’s free for private sellers to sell on eBay (excl. Vehicles). As part of this, from 4 Feb, a Buyer Protection fee will be added to listings from UK-based private sellers so we can make investments into these protections. This fee will be included in the item price and be paid for by the buyer. As a reminder, this is free of charge for business sellers.​

• •​	To give buyers more protection and encourage timely shipment, private sellers will be paid once the item is delivered. There’s no change for business sellers and you’ll still receive your payouts as quickly as you do today.​

• •​	We know it’s important to have a fair and equitable marketplace for all business sellers. That’s why we’re monitoring trading activities on eBay to help business sellers using a private account transition over to a business account, or restricting selling activity as necessary.​

 

[Smallfry]

Should be protecting sellers from unscrupulous buyers too.

I knew the fee free thing wouldn't last ......... although I am surprised buyers will have to pay.

 

[skotl]

• ​

  We recently made changes to our fee structure so it’s free for private sellers to sell on eBay (excl. Vehicles). As part of this, from 4 Feb, a Buyer Protection fee will be added to listings from UK-based private sellers so we can make investments into these protections. This fee will be included in the item price and be paid for by the buyer. As a reminder, this is free of charge for business sellers.​

  
  
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  •​	To give buyers more protection and encourage timely shipment, private sellers will be paid once the item is delivered. There’s no change for business sellers and you’ll still receive your payouts as quickly as you do today.​

  
  
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  •​	We know it’s important to have a fair and equitable marketplace for all business sellers. That’s why we’re monitoring trading activities on eBay to help business sellers using a private account transition over to a business account, or restricting selling activity as necessary.​

Thumb up was for post in this and clearing up questions I had, not to indicate an appreciation of the changes!

So there’s still a seller’s fee, effectively. Pretty poor.

 

[ukracer]

Thumb up was for post in this and clearing up questions I had, not to indicate an appreciation of the changes!

So there’s still a seller’s fee, effectively. Pretty poor.

I am a business seller. They choose if you are or not. So we get different benefits etc.
Shop was good when we sold a lot but they used to do 3 top seller ratings with 30% of for the best sellers.

I was involved with Chinese sellers who stitched me up.owing me 40k so when HMRC and Customs and excise asked me for VAT on 1.3 million I willingly gave them all the details I had on the Chinese pair.

The reason they were able to start again was that my account was no good, with my supposed 8% commission, after ebay dropped the 30% Discount.

It also gave a higher ranking to top rated sellers . Similar to the 99p auction styles.
I also had access to an account manager via a mobile phone number.

All long gone now..

I can't see how ebay stay in business and indeed why an alternative has never taken off.