Pigeon_Droppings2
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I'd ask them how they stop back feeds in all their leaking supply pipes!
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gaz1
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a general query
whats been said for the stop taps outside for plugging hosepipes onto
i know ballcock valves will have been put onto the banned usage for water fill tanks /baths for grazing cattle
the old brass type ball cock is the better option but must not use the inlet pipe to feed into the water as it must free fall through the air before it hits the tankl water level
whats been said for the stop taps outside for plugging hosepipes onto
i know ballcock valves will have been put onto the banned usage for water fill tanks /baths for grazing cattle
the old brass type ball cock is the better option but must not use the inlet pipe to feed into the water as it must free fall through the air before it hits the tankl water level
Outside taps need a double check valve built in or in supply pipe. But they cannot have a hose or even a hose connector unless it's fitted with a DC pipe interrupter.
That's the AB airgap weir for fluid category 5, which includes a hosepipe on any non domestic building. It's nuts.
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so fit all 3 of them to the washer pipe supply and then your up to the regs
whilst the hose pipe can have more contamination than the washer hose pipe
as the washing machine is only a hosepipe connection and flows top down into the washing machine the same can be said for the dish washer so becareful with that one as well
the outside taps have more risk of contamination due to washing hands and tools and appliances
whilst the washing machine is for farm clothes they can be contaminated however theres domestic cleaning and business cleaning its best not to mix them
contamination can be on the plates within the dishwasher
Unfortunately you can only fit a DC interrupter on an open ended pipe.
They didn't, they got Cholera or dysentery or died from lead poisoning or by getting dragged into line shafting in some grotty factory or from asbestosis or some other horrible industrial disease.
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From a washing machine on a farm?They didn't, they got Cholera or dysentery or died from lead poisoning or by getting dragged into line shafting in some grotty factory or from asbestosis or some other horrible industrial disease.
I guess the rules there for a reason.
The problem lies with it being a buisiness, and if he's washing overalls that are soaked in cow **** or blood or whatever, do you really want to run the risk of that getting into their water supply?
Same with the hose. If its sat in a puddle of slurry do you really want to run the risk of that being drawn back into the supply if something went wrong?
Whilst the OP may be careful, only wash clean clothes, roll their hose up every night and unplug it, there's plenty of others that might not, and it's impossible to differentiate between the good and the bad.
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Ok really, he’s on a farm, back flow from a washing machine, how far could that possibly go, i presume the nearest neighbour is not within a few metres, is back feeding really a thing, christ I can’t believe I’m alive having spent my first 14 years on a farm. The world has gone nuts, anyway the OP is looking for a solution not a disagreement so I’ll say no more.I guess the rules there for a reason.
The problem lies with it being a buisiness, and if he's washing overalls that are soaked in cow **** or blood or whatever, do you really want to run the risk of that getting into their water supply?
Same with the hose. If its sat in a puddle of slurry do you really want to run the risk of that being drawn back into the supply if something went wrong?
Whilst the OP may be careful, only wash clean clothes, roll their hose up every night and unplug it, there's plenty of others that might not, and it's impossible to differentiate between the good and the bad.
Part of the problem is likely due to the fact that the water infrastructure is so knackered and leaking that the solution is often pressure zoning. Basically they can't be arsed to fix the leaks so just fit a pressure reducing valve and drop the supply pressure in chunks of the network, so it doesn't leak so bad. In Scotland we are now only guaranteed 1 bar or 10m head from the stop valve at the boundary. if buildings over 10m tall with water outlets and having to get water byelaw approval we need to putting in tanks at below 10m ht and fitting water boosters. Same carry on with sprinklers etc. But I suspect with mains pressures in some areas being held so low to reduce leakage the possibility of back syphonage becomes more probable. Less liklihood of back flow into a main that's got say 5 bar pressure compared to a main with 2 bar pressure.
I did ask one of the inspectors. What if I take the overalls home and wash them there. He said no problem machines in a domestic house are not covered the the regulations.
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By reading that the authorities do not consider a farmhouse to be a domestic house? God only knows what they think goes on in a farmhouse, hope you find a solution.
This regulation was talked about 30 years ago when I installed & serviced pressure washers. The customer was supposed to have a check valve fitted to a mains supply but nobody ever did because it caused a flow restriction to the already poorly pressured mains feed, likely causing the washer to be starved of water.
Back then it was never checked, looks like they are catching up now. If only they were as keen on checking on when the water companies feed raw sewage into waterways!
Back then it was never checked, looks like they are catching up now. If only they were as keen on checking on when the water companies feed raw sewage into waterways!
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No, because it is a commercial property*. It is swings and roundabouts - a farmhouse as part of a commercial farm has benefits (tax breaks) in other areas so if you want to enjoy them, you have to obey the rules in other areas.
Donald Trump is in trouble for this - he has classified Mar a Lago as a private club for property tax purposes, but then valued it as a des. res. in order to secure a loan on it.
Being part of a commercial property, any work you do to make it meet the regulations will be a business expense, and thus able to be offset against your tax (even the washing machine itself could be seen as a business expense).
* it is a little outside this discussion but I understand there is a distinction between 'residential' farms and 'commercial' farms. I wonder what the water people have to say about a residential farm.
Check valves are not enough now. Pressure washers cannot be directly connected to mains water.This regulation was talked about 30 years ago when I installed & serviced pressure washers. The customer was supposed to have a check valve fitted to a mains supply but nobody ever did because it caused a flow restriction to the already poorly pressured mains feed, likely causing the washer to be starved of water.
Back then it was never checked, looks like they are catching up now. If only they were as keen on checking on when the water companies feed raw sewage into waterways!
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yes there are tax breaks with farm houses…..inheritance tax being one of them.
Ill let you know what they say if they come here…..regarding commercial vs residential….not sure where will fit as we dont claim farm payments, but run a business….. does this mean holiday lets and ex farm workers properties now let on a short hold tenancy will need to comply to these daft rules.
looks like the twin tub washer will be coming back. Or there will be big demand for bore holes.
