underground house ideas

[Baloo]

copied from a planning forum



Noseall is righter than he thought, a fallout shelter is exempt from planning permission and building regs provided that its depth is no greater than the distance from the nearest building (this is nationwide, not dependent on Local Authority).

I suspect this was from the days when (1) having even a badly built one was better than waiting for the 4-minute warning before you started to dig (2) not being on record at the town hall would prevent panicky council employees or neighbours from knowing they could fight their way into your shelter to save themselves at your expense.

It is a good idea to have an escape hatch at the opposite end to the usual entrance, in case of emergency e.g. fire.



and the wife might leave as well, bonus

 

[Baloo]

Try 01845 567080

thank you, will give it a try tomorrow

Andy

 

[madkayaker]

that tank would make a great one if you buired it length ways!

 

[the snooper]

that tank will cost you a packet they wont be parting with it for peanuts

 

[Robotstar5]

not being on record at the town hall would prevent panicky council employees or neighbours from knowing they could fight their way into your shelter to save themselves at your expense.

You'd be a bit miffed when you arrive at your shelter to find the door locked and your neighbour inside with the female planning officer!

 

[Baloo]

that tank will cost you a packet they wont be parting with it for peanuts

well its worth what it's worth, it may be a non starter 10 years sitting out in all weather may have taken its toll, it might crazed and cracked and leak like a sieve, its also not insulated and has many openings that need glassing over,
add to that the transport it might indeed be cheaper to have one made to my spec, at least it would shiney white inside, insulated and transportable by road, there are some prices here to get a ball park figue

http://www.aghdrainstore.com/index....wse&category_id=11&Itemid=1&vmcchk=1&Itemid=1

 

[M@tt]

see this?

http://www.simondale.net/house/

 

[MarkMG]

Is something that shape really going to give you enough space?

Once you have put floor in and lined etc there won't be much left.

 

[Shox Dr]

copied from a planning forum

There must be conditions attached though


after a bit of a search looks like max floor area is 30sq mtr

 

[Baloo]

Is something that shape really going to give you enough space?
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Once you have put floor in and lined etc there won't be much left.

hi
compares with a narrow boat favorably l would think, and people live in them full time, if you had it too big you would just be wasting energy heating it ?
12' dia and 60' long would be several times bigger than a caravan and many people on here probally spend an enjoyable weekend in them several times a year

 

[Baloo]

There must be conditions attached though


after a bit of a search looks like max floor area is 30sq mtr

yes l found the same, and the council will probabally claim its "engineering" works and hence will require planning permission anyway,

they made me apply for planning for my pond although you dont need planning for a pond they claimed it was engineering since l used an excavator and that needed planning l could have dug it by hand apparently with out planning permisssion

 

[MarkMG]

Try these, get to what size you like and easy bolt together
http://www.assetint.co.uk/multiplate-introduction.html

 

[sean-1]

Have you considered using several smaller tanks and linking them (space station style)? That way you could have them vertical and maximize the floor space, with the bonus of having very cool round rooms
Here's a link to a firm in suffolk who sell used tanks.

http://www.regaltanks.co.uk/search/search2.php?database=used

 

[madkayaker]

http://www.regaltanks.co.uk/search/details.php3?used=RT1438

just need a big pump now . that would run the sandblaster well

 

[Baloo]

http://www.regaltanks.co.uk/search/details.php3?used=RT1438

just need a big pump now . that would run the sandblaster well

37 tons wouldent need to bury it, it would sink out of sight on its own lol

 

[Baloo]

Have you considered using several smaller tanks and linking them (space station style)? That way you could have them vertical and maximize the floor space, with the bonus of having very cool round rooms
Here's a link to a firm in suffolk who sell used tanks.

http://www.regaltanks.co.uk/search/search2.php?database=used

thank you for that,
they have some BIG tanks there, most of them appear to be made of steel, nice and strong but to heavy for me to move about, might also have problems with heat loss and condensation

making a space station style set sound cool but all the connections between the room/corridoors would offer lots of oppertunites for leaks when the ground settles

from a insulation point of view l was thinking that what l need is a fiberglass tank that would just slide inside a 40' shipping container and then inject expanding foam through the container wall to "fix" the tank in position and provide the insulation, but l dont think 8' dia would be quite enough

 

[Shox Dr]

Get back to playing with four wheels, you fruit cake

 

[Raf]

some pics to look at:

http://thechive.com/2011/07/26/unbelievable-home-built-out-of-two-shipping-containers-39-photos/

 

[mike os]

, you fruit cake

fruit cake is up from where he is...

 

[Baloo]

well l have had a chat with a fiberglass man he thinks l am friut cake
cost is one stumbling block unless its made in small pieces that use the same mould and then bolted together afterwards but this has the downside of many seams each with potential to leak, a one piece tank would seem the better option
he seemed to be steering me in the direction of a shipping container as it wouldent need a mould at all, roll the shipping container over on to it roof insert 3" of styene insulation and then cover with glassfiber, roll it over on to its side and repeat etc etc, all doable by me in the yard
but he couldent get his head round why anyone might want to live underground at all and though above ground was a much better idea this led back onto ex railway carrigages something like this one

this would make a great weekend hideaway hidden in the woods but the logistics of moving one of them around with their great wieght make it a non starter, however if l started with a 40' artic flat bed trailer and rolled some 2" box for the roof profile and then made a frame up for the sides again out of 2" box l could cladd it in ally sheet insert 2" polystyrene in the walls and cladd the inside with ply l am sure l could make a passable look alike with with a bit of care, l could then dragg it about with the tractor when l am bored with the current view moving on it might be better to start with a box trailer with grp walls and fit a curved roof jigsaw out some windows and we are half way there
my mind has to much free time l think

anyway l managed to get half a day on saturday doing my pond extension, l can see a nice spot to park my train