Ummmm which big 4x4

[indy4x]

For £4k I'd steer clear of an L322. I think you're only going to get a dog of one at that price. I'd say there's nothing comparable to them, especially in V8 form. But the V8s are going to set you back £500 in road tax. You should also budget on buying an IID tool (£300ish if I recall) because it'll save you that in diagnostics.

So that leaves you about £3k to buy a vehicle. You'll do a lot of hunting to find a decent one for that.

I've just bought one (well back in March I think it was) a 4.4TDV8 (2011) with 125k on it, full JLR service history and had just had new tyres and full service before I bought it. Was £12.5k and that was a good price.

If you pay bottom dollar for an L322 you'll be spending your time chasing faults and hate the experience. Well worth paying a bit extra.

Don't be put off by high mileage but it must have been serviced and looked after.

I bought one several years ago when I got a D3, really useful bit of kit and still have it.

Also used it on my BIL L322 TD6 and FIL L322 TDV8 (after buying additional licences)

But, recently bought an Autel for 1 job only, needed to code a new key fob for my BIL's FL2, IID tool can't do it and its not on their road map yet

Following a review on the FL2 forum I bought the Autel for £45 and a new key fob for £30 and coded it to the car. It is now also unlocked to all LR's whereas the IID tool its VIN locked and you need to buy a new licence for additional vehicles, worth exploring

 

[8ob]

unlike @8ob I would NOT go with the trooper

A number of years ago I test drove a new trooper. I started in the back with the salesman driving and felt really queasy. He poured scorn on my comments until it came for his turn in the back. When we returned to the showroom he said "I see what you mean"

I only bought the SWB commercials, had three of them at one point. The only issues were rust really, very good workhorse.

Mate had a LWB 3.1 Trooper. Far better in every way than my Range Rover Vogue.

A friend still runs an older Trooper with some kind of Lotus styling package, looks a bot OTT but its brimming with toys, he loves it.

Bob

 

[MCKDAVID]

Seem solid enough here.

 

[Robbie260]

When I first saw this post, I thought you wanted an Umm 4x4!
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That's really cool.

 

[Rannsachair]

That's really cool.

I was on holiday in Madeira and there were lots of them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMM_4x4#:~:text=The French-built UMM 4x4,gearbox made also by Peugeot.

 

[James1979]

On the subject of Spanish 4x4s what about a Santana?

Lada Cossack are unstoppable. Like a goat. An estate I lived on had one for the keepers.

Does it need to be 4x4? What about a canter / cab star and make a service truck like the yanks have? Plenty of scope for what you need plus a small hiab / swing lift

 

[Robbie260]

On the subject of Spanish 4x4s what about a Santana?

Lada Cossack are unstoppable. Like a goat. An estate I lived on had one for the keepers.

Does it need to be 4x4? What about a canter / cab star and make a service truck like the yanks have? Plenty of scope for what you need plus a small hiab / swing lift

Dosent have to be 4x4 but decent ground clearance is a must and some quite low gearing is much preferred. A service truck sounds a great thing and is very tempting. A hiab would be handy every so often.

 

[James1979]

The cab star definitely comes in a couple of diff options so you can get low geared ones. I’d assume others do too.

I was building a service truck on a canter but ran out of time and bought the L200. Wish I’d stuck with it in some ways. Hiab and diesel welder in one place would be damn handy.

 

[tom2207]

old 4.2 nissan patrol was a mighty bit of kit too , but not seen one in many years .

 

[bourbon]

That's an even taller order than mine! at least I have a wider range to choose from.

 

[James1979]

old 4.2 nissan patrol was a mighty bit of kit too , but not seen one in many years .

They pulled like a train. Mates dad has one in England. He sells in trucks and just keeps the patrol for pulling a massive transporter trailer with trucks on.

Don’t even know it’s there.

 

[Justme]

I'd include a Discovery 3 on the list, for £4k any of the vehicles mentioned above have the potential to be trouble. Less of a rot box than previous incarnations, some of them aren't ridiculously high tax rates, if you are vaguely capable of wielding a spanner then bits are available and there are enough owners fixing them now that information to sort common faults is pretty readily available. Comfortable interior and good daily driver.

Pre 1st March 2001 its £280.
From 1st March 2001 to 23rd March 2006 is £340.
It jumps up to £585 after that.

Just brought a 3 with a few faults for £2k. I think I will spend about £1k on it in parts, tools & cleaning to get it sorted.
But then its a £4500 vehicle.

 

[Justme]

I bought one several years ago when I got a D3, really useful bit of kit and still have it.

Also used it on my BIL L322 TD6 and FIL L322 TDV8 (after buying additional licences)

But, recently bought an Autel for 1 job only, needed to code a new key fob for my BIL's FL2, IID tool can't do it and its not on their road map yet

Following a review on the FL2 forum I bought the Autel for £45 and a new key fob for £30 and coded it to the car. It is now also unlocked to all LR's whereas the IID tool its VIN locked and you need to buy a new licence for additional vehicles, worth exploring

Do you want to sell the IIDBT?

Can the Autel do suspension programming?

 

[tom2207]

Pre 1st March 2001 its £280.
From 1st March 2001 to 23rd March 2006 is £340.
It jumps up to £585 after that.

Just brought a 3 with a few faults for £2k. I think I will spend about £1k on it in parts, tools & cleaning to get it sorted.
But then its a £4500 vehicle.

Makes you wonder why the original owner didnt do that ,,, still its a new year , so fingers crossed for you that it works out that way ,, sometimes it can.

 

[Blobber]

If i could find a really nice 3.0 Trooper I would jump at it, they drive really nice and the interiors are really well put together the only downside is the complexity of the engine which has 2 oil pumps 1 of which runs the injectors that operate with high pressure oil, loads of buried expensive sensors can and do go wrong, we run a Discovery 2 TD5 at present and its a complete tractor, horrible thing, all the interior plastics and switch gear seem to be single use! the upside is you can buy everything to fix it and problems are well documented

 

[Bornfree]

I've got an old 3.1 trooper that I use off road for fox shooting mechanically it's great but they do rust badly

 

[mr haynes]

This could be the mythical 25yr old jap that is still with us!!

1996 Mitsubishi Pajero

Pajero2.8 exceed 6mths mot very low mileage engine and box run sweet very nice inside(usual drivers seat a bit worn) 4 matching tyres with plenty tread oil seal been done recently t full...

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[Agrismith]

I'm biased a little but 4k should get you a really nice landcruiser colorado, yes they can rust but what 20 year old 4x4 doesn't. I was really lucky with mine and it's not required any welding or major repairs. It's at 156k and has done everything I've thrown at it with ease apart from being fuel efficient.

They really are great motors but haven't seen one with in the ops budget that isn't a complete mot failure for a long time
They have a reputation now and hold the money

If I was going to get another 4x4 now, it would be a Mitsubishi Shogun. One of only a few vehicles with a 3.5t towing capacity. I favour the two-door SWB version. Modern 4WD pickups don't have towing or load capacity, so I'd rather pull a trailer behind that instead.

I would check the plates first as very few of the shogun's can actually tow 3.5t and I don't think any of the swb ones can

 

[dobbslc]

This could be the mythical 25yr old jap that is still with us!!

1996 Mitsubishi Pajero

Pajero2.8 exceed 6mths mot very low mileage engine and box run sweet very nice inside(usual drivers seat a bit worn) 4 matching tyres with plenty tread oil seal been done recently t full...

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Quote in the ad " been welded in all the usual places "

 

[8ob]

Quote in the ad " been welded in all the usual places "

My go to prior to buying any truck is DVLA`s mot history checker, I wont buy anything with a history of corrosion advisories or repairs. There are normally more than enough jobs to do on a second hand truck without chasing tinworm about.

Bob