tight spots

[w124]

31mm gap between two 140x250mm plates.
that was absolutely ridiculous job.
i've used 2 units one was a 500A with MB501 torch:


and a 300A unit without water cooled torch which was much smaller. and i had good results with a correct angle.
but not in there...


how would You weld it? im thinking MMA would work, but i didnt had a go with it.

 

[henry Kadzielski]

^^^ Binzel make for there Abicor range various styles of accessories to get into tight places. This dosn't automatically mean that there would be something suitable to make life easier. The MB501 is just a standard 500A rated torch with no accessories. Using a smaller (lower rated ) torch will give you more space to manouver but there is no substitute for the right tool. The other thing, is there sufficient demand to justify the expenditure on these special bits, only you can be the judge. Have a look into Abicor Binzel in their 300 and 400 series torches. They have many various attachments you could possibly use.

 

[w124]

hi Henry, do you have polish roots? . anyways i used a smaller torch still no access. the arc was focused 75% on the bottom plate, the gas i used was OMIX..

 

[henry Kadzielski]

Yes and do speak. I can't remember where I did see the listing of the accessories for the Abimig series. Had a look today and can't find what if found when I was first looking several years ago. I got a 455T when I got one, which has a great duty cycle when I use it for it's intended purpose. There is also a great listing of different accessories from EWM which use Abicor Binzel torches. They have a listing of all that is available (short and long necks, tight radius bends, short shrouds along with various length contact tip holders) I believe that there will be something that will suite, still depending on your application and the cost

 

[Richard.]

450mm long lo hydrodgen electrodes will see that gap tackled with a breeze.
Not as fast as mig but sometimes these situations demand a process change.

 

[Kent]

I would go with Richard on this one in fact I shouldn't have tried mig

 

[Welderpaul]

Stick weld that no bother. Danger with Mig is that you end up laying the torch over to get in the gap and just laying the weld on top with no penetration

 

[Brad93]

TBI Industries - An ESAB brand

 

[w124]

Stick weld that no bother. Danger with Mig is that you end up laying the torch over to get in the gap and just laying the weld on top with no penetration

thats what i think it is. the amount of spatter speaks for itself, and it was set for spray arc.
i got no idea about stick welding, just what ive heard was its good to know how to weld with it as its still the only way to weld something where you dont have access with MIG or TIG (saw some welding inside a C - channel to plate with a stick, looked like it was insanely hard even for stick. but the guy who welded it was absolutely top class welder in MIG)