Tight nuts and how to remove?

[Parm]

Good to see the Parmster back on board

Bob

I haven’t been called the Parmster in a very long time, school days I think was the last time

 

[Gwil]

I'll keep everybody posted. Lots to think about. I should have mentioned it laughed at my Bosch 18v impact driver, which struggles with a wheelnut the average gerbil could undo.

That big DeWalt thing looks the dog's danglies though.

 

[Parm]

I'll keep everybody posted. Lots to think about. I should have mentioned it laughed at my Bosch 18v impact driver, which struggles with a wheelnut the average gerbil could undo.

That big DeWalt thing looks the dog's danglies though.

Is that nut done up that tight for a reason or do they get like that?

 

[chris pruteanu]

Only issue

We’ve got them at work. Realistically, the quoted figures are exaggerated. I really don’t rate them or the batteries.

The most powerful, tested, 18V impact gun is the Milwaukee one.

Milwaukee batteries are junk though and the bodies are made of cheese.

Can’t beat snap on, tried and tested, still the same years after they were released.

Only issue is the snap on hasnt moved on with the competition and they are really dated- good but dated ! The milwaukee 9Ah batteries are really good, i have 2x 4Ah that gave up the gost but the 9Ah are holding well ! They are fragile if you drop them- they split but a bit of superglue or poliurethane stick them back for good ! I am using milwaukee tools since the 90's and i agree- since TTI took over they are not a patch on what milwaukee tools used to be...they still raising the stakes every year !

 

[8ob]

Dont mention Milwaukee, you'll wake up Ed @sako243

Just looked on a Harley site to see what this gurt nut is all about and depending on year it can be LH or RH thread. May be worth checking at the pre hernia stage.

Bob

 

[Brad93]

Only issue

Only issue is the snap on hasnt moved on with the competition and they are really dated- good but dated ! The milwaukee 9Ah batteries are really good, i have 2x 4Ah that gave up the gost but the 9Ah are holding well ! They are fragile if you drop them- they split but a bit of superglue or poliurethane stick them back for good ! I am using milwaukee tools since the 90's and i agree- since TTI took over they are not a patch on what milwaukee tools used to be...they still raising the stakes every year !

They are certainly innovative and their tools get lighter and more powerful every year for sure. But the quality just isn’t there.

You’re right about snap on, they haven’t gone brushless or gone to more powerful batteries yet.

You don’t see Milwaukee on jobsites, because it just will not last.
My dads Milwaukee drill and impact driver are both fubar. They’re two years old. The rubber grips are all coming away from the plastic housing. The chuck on the combi drill is perhaps one of the worst I’ve ever used.
One battery has stopped taking charge now too. Must have a dead cell or something.

My snap on combi drill still looks like new.

Personally if I was in building or construction, I’d have Hilti on the fleet scheme. Their stuff is honestly so far beyond the competition, it’s insane.

 

[Dcal]

I've a hilt 18v impact gun.
It's a few years old but it's useless on anything tight.
Wheel nuts are just about it's limit.

 

[cianh91]

This might be ur answer iv used them for areas I couldn get into with the gun or not enough space to turn a big bar and they work very well and not to expensive either

 

[daedalusminos]

I have the new milwaukee onekey 1/2'' impact cordless gun, its a beast

Me too, nothing has beaten it yet, fantastic on rusted nuts...they come off too hot to handle.

 

[Climber]

View attachment 191216 This might be ur answer iv used them for areas I couldn get into with the gun or not enough space to turn a big bar and they work very well and not to expensive either

That might be handy for tight spaces, but you don't get much of a mechanical advantage with such a short Lever.

 

[Brad93]

I've a hilt 18v impact gun.
It's a few years old but it's useless on anything tight.
Wheel nuts are just about it's limit.

They’re small little things though aren’t they? The scaffolders love them.

 

[Gwil]

Is that nut done up that tight for a reason or do they get like that?

They only need 50ft/lbs- they have a proper lockplate. They get like that, although it has to be said it's not unknown for them to come undone.

 

[Maker]

They are certainly innovative and their tools get lighter and more powerful every year for sure. But the quality just isn’t there.

You’re right about snap on, they haven’t gone brushless or gone to more powerful batteries yet.

You don’t see Milwaukee on jobsites, because it just will not last.
My dads Milwaukee drill and impact driver are both fubar. They’re two years old. The rubber grips are all coming away from the plastic housing. The chuck on the combi drill is perhaps one of the worst I’ve ever used.
One battery has stopped taking charge now too. Must have a dead cell or something.

My snap on combi drill still looks like new.

Personally if I was in building or construction, I’d have Hilti on the fleet scheme. Their stuff is honestly so far beyond the competition, it’s insane.

You knock Snap-on for not going brushless but Hilti are still brushed aren't they?

That said, I'm not disagreeing with you, I'd get Hilti if I could afford it but you'd get three DeWalts for the price. The specs (On paper at least) are higher on a lot of DeWalt too, though that could just be that Hilti aren't so heavily into the marketing yank.

 

[roofman]

This day and age what we want and what we use is 2 different things on site...there's no way i would have top of the range gear anywhere i need to turn my back on it..its bad enough keeping it in the van and that's during the day between jobs

 

[Justme]

I reckon you are going to need a torque multiplier, something like 5-1 advantage which will make undoing easy and give you a chance to torque it up properly when it goes back on.

Cheapy https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Torque-Multiplier-Nut-Wrench-Set-1-2-Torque-Wheel-Wrench-Polished/322288228628?hash=item4b09e01914&_trkparms=ispr=1&enc=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&checksum=322288228628712b71fd52404ad48b3ada24737b5bb7

300nm max output?

You will get that with a foot on a 2 foot breaker with ease.

 

[sako243]

Dont mention Milwaukee, you'll wake up Ed @sako243

Been busy testing Milwaukee's Jigsaw... It may have been on the edge of a floor board 20ft up when said floorboard got stood on, proceeded to go through the rotten floor joists catapulting aforementioned jigsaw another couple of feet up in the air and through the big hole in the floor to the slate slab floor below.


No sign of damage and bonus is blade doesn't even appear to have been bent.

 

[Revs1972]

You knock Snap-on for not going brushless but Hilti are still brushed aren't they?

That said, I'm not disagreeing with you, I'd get Hilti if I could afford it but you'd get three DeWalts for the price. The specs (On paper at least) are higher on a lot of DeWalt too, though that could just be that Hilti aren't so heavily into the marketing yank.

On paper Hilti don’t appear that impressive. But when you put them to the test they really shine. I have the SF 8M metal drill and a TE6 SDS drill and they whizz over the competition. My impact drivers are Milwaukee though. 1/2 compact, 1/2 one key job and a 3/4 inch. They’ll tighten and loosen pretty much anything you put in front of them.
The erectors I use all use Hilti impact drivers. The anvils usually last about 6 weeks max on them. It’s a 3 day turn around to get a replacement from Hilti. These things are used solidly every day though, so will tighten literally 1000’s of bolts in that time. Would be interesting to see how the Milwaukee stand up to that sort of continual abuse.

 

[chris pruteanu]

I used my 3/4" milwaukee for the last 3-4 years in a busy workshop/garage and the anvil is not showing any sign of noticeable wear- its cheap sockets that eat trough the anvils... I used another with a chuck adaptor from snap on and that has left a bit of wear on the edges of the square but nothing serious !
I now have the 1/2" one key version and i reckon its a lot stronger than the older model- they are both brushless but the new one seems to hit harder. I think the 3/4" used to hit a lot harder when i bought it, even on 4Ah batteries- i have now upgraded to 9Ah jobbies and they do shine ! Somehow they do degrade overtime but i don't use them in anger, if a bolt dont come loose then i use the large 3/4" braker bar with a cheater pipe on it as well- up to 2m of leverage !

 

[Exuptoy]

My mate has just sold all his snap on guns and his other kit and spent £3k on all new Milwaukee gear. He reckons the battery rattle guns are better than anything he’s tried. Too rich for me!

I have a Clarke CEW1000 too and bought it used for £35. It doesn’t get used often but I’ll never get rid.

 

[james butler]

Get one of these.
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1625Nm breakaway torque, the only bolts it doesn't loosen are the ones it snaps.

i can vouch for one of these, just dont use it with non impact sockets as they crack and fly apart easily