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wait tilll every one trys to plug their car in at six , and turn the kettle on too ,,, melt down.
Ross365
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Yep, some SMR concepts (for all of them are concepts only at the moment) are derivatives of submarine (PWR) reactors. But here's the issue you have to think about; the Americans put reactors in subs back in the 1950's, so why on Earth didn't land-based SMR's follow on close behind? Of course, with any loss of coolant, large PWR's go in to meltdown pretty quickly. You'd have to imagine that with smaller mass, a small PWR would go in to meltdown super f****** quickly.
SMRs aren't as good as a full sized reactor. But they seem less sensitive politically and are far cheaper than the equivalent wind farm. They are also generate 365 days a year of course.
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An SMR is £2 billion (Apparently) and puts out about 470MW, Dogger Bank C is estimated to cost 3 billion and should put out 1.2GW.
365 days a year ignores maintenance and refuelling too, I'd imagine a SMR can be refulled faster than a big one, but Sizewell B is currently off for refuelling and won't come back online until the end of April.
Yeah but the operator can’t decide when to turn Dogger C on, only Morris y Gwynt can do that.
(Morris y Gwynt is the welsh name for the wind - from an old rhyme).
Dogger bank C is expected to put out about 6,000GW/h in a good year - One SMR about 4,200 any year.
But no matter how wonderful wind is what happens for those vital periods when there is no wind? I would be all in favour of wind power IF we could store the energy. But we can't!
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Guy Martin has turned into a knob, just my opinion like…l.l.
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Surely the elephant in the room of all the world's problems is too many people? Or rather if there were less people the problems wouldn't be so great? You don't need to be carol vorderman to know that 50% less people means 50% less consumption of absolutely everything, food, water, energy, housing etc... I'm not suggesting bumping people off, but probably the biggest contribution to climate change somebody could make is not going on less holidays or cycling to work once a month but having less children.
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Even in 1972 they were making films about it
Z.P.G. (1972) - IMDb
Z.P.G.: Directed by Michael Campus. With Oliver Reed, Geraldine Chaplin, Don Gordon, Diane Cilento. Concerned with population over-growth, the Earth government bans, under the penalty of death, all pregnancies but one couple decides to risk having a real baby rather than legally adopt a cyborg...
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Britain's first 500-tonne nuclear reactor in 30 years arrives
The 42ft, 500-tonne white 'reactor pressure vessel' arrived today at Hinkley Point C in Somerset. It will be the first nuclear reactor to be installed in the UK since the 1990s.
Arrived on site at last.
Shame a certain Government sold off Westinghouse a few years ago. Past Governments determined to get rid of nuclear power.
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Britain's first 500-tonne nuclear reactor in 30 years arrives
The 42ft, 500-tonne white 'reactor pressure vessel' arrived today at Hinkley Point C in Somerset. It will be the first nuclear reactor to be installed in the UK since the 1990s.www.dailymail.co.uk
Arrived on site at last.
Shame a certain Government sold off Westinghouse a few years ago. Past Governments determined to get rid of nuclear power.
I thought Westinghouse was an American company?
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Britain's first 500-tonne nuclear reactor in 30 years arrives
The 42ft, 500-tonne white 'reactor pressure vessel' arrived today at Hinkley Point C in Somerset. It will be the first nuclear reactor to be installed in the UK since the 1990s.
Arrived on site at last.
Shame a certain Government sold off Westinghouse a few years ago. Past Governments determined to get rid of nuclear power.
If they didn't sell them off, the current one would. They would sell King Charles' undies in a flash given a chance
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He was.
It was - but then it became British. Back in the late 90s Britain was buying up half the World. Economy was doing very well.
In 2006 Brown sold off £50bn of British assets - Westinghouse was one of them.
Along with loads of Gold.
Yup - the graph is still called the Brown Bottom
Mind you for the sake of balance the current lot aren't exactly doing very well either
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Loads of other countries were selling off gold too, it was not unusual but he announced it so the price dropped costing $100 million in 1999, which is about $180 million in todays money.
However Sunak cost us £11 Billion by not insuring the national debt repayments against interest rate changes, despite Bank of England advising to do so
But everybody will remember Gordon Brown's, not Sunak's cock up!
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Same old arguments - but annually wind provides a sizeable chunk which means its not being provided by gas. We could of course wait until the currently non existent smr come on line (10 years?) and just carry on using ~30% more gas per year....
I should point out that I'm currently working on projects for the nuclear industry so I'm far from being anti nuclear, but I'm also a realist and understand its not happening overnight and comes with its own not incosiderable problems. The 2 (or more if you include solar and other renewables) technologies are not mutually exclusive either - its not one or the other. I would imagine its going to be a combination of technologies working together that will be the norm.
I should point out that I'm currently working on projects for the nuclear industry so I'm far from being anti nuclear, but I'm also a realist and understand its not happening overnight and comes with its own not incosiderable problems. The 2 (or more if you include solar and other renewables) technologies are not mutually exclusive either - its not one or the other. I would imagine its going to be a combination of technologies working together that will be the norm.
