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I used to love the exhaust sound of my RR classic under load in low range 2nd gear
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I used to love the exhaust sound of my RR classic under load in low range 2nd gear
GRW, are you telling me you dont get a head with no spare guides in to sort, hit the part books and find something near, and machine it to suit? I bet you would if it was for your personal car and you could do it out of hours
Astra are alloy heads and you can buy seats/guides etc to sort that, but the aftermarket has caught up like you say. Theyre really close to the size I needed for a gpz1100 the other week though, they seem to have disappeared out of son's new parts stash
"Hitting the Parts Books" is something they still do for older stuff where there ARE Parts Books.
All the supply chain though, it's systems of Parts ID - is computerised & designed to work off a vehicle Reg, Engine Code or VIN.... not Parts Dimensions.
So once they KNOW the correct Part - they can confirm dimensions...... so its ID Vehicle - ID Part.... but they aren't geared-up to do the process the other way around.
I can't give a Supplier Valve or Valve Guide Dimensions to get Parts (or close Parts to adapt) - except to order Hardened Valve Seat Insert Blanks to recover worn/damaged Valve Seats.
So while what you say is perfectly reasonable & practical in theory - in practice (unless you had Guides in Stock that you could measure-up against a removed Guide from the head & select a suitable candidate to substitute) its not as easy as it could be.
Lots of newer car heads now - thr Mfrs also even state that they "cannot" & must not be Refaced/Skimmed, but replaced (even though they can).
Its where all this "Green" rhetoric becomes a Scam - the cars are cleaner - but are much more engineered to be a Consumer Disposable item, not a Durable "Sustainable" item... so you buy a new one (with all its incumbent manufacturing/production/distribution impact environmental cost, plus the disposal of its predecessor) every few years, instead of keeping a vehicle in service far longer.
"Make do & Mend", reduce, re-use, recycle etc..... is an ideology that is wholly incompatible with Economies utterly reliant upon Capitalism, Consumerism, Sales & Taxes....
No-one seems to cotton on that "Green" initiatives & their spiralling costs - are in reality just ways to force INCREASED Consumerism & Resource Use..... but cleverly wrapped-up in a cloak of "Environmental Responsibility".... a neat way to get MORE consumption, but market & sell the idea that its actually POSITIVE Consumerism, not harmful consumerism!
Clever "Spin" drive greater consumption - but make you feel good & righteous ABOUT that increased consumption!
There are parts of my commute, that regardless of weather, the window gets dropped to listenI used to love the exhaust sound of my RR classic under load in low range 2nd gear
Reading this morning about "electric car sickness". The instant, smooth, acceleration is making more people motion sick. One car even has a motion sickness relieft mode.
I guess it's to do with people unable to maintain a constant speed, a constant throttle pressure. You see ICE casrs doing the same, but I guess the instant response of electric motors really exacerbates it.
I guess it's to do with people unable to maintain a constant speed, a constant throttle pressure. You see ICE casrs doing the same, but I guess the instant response of electric motors really exacerbates it.
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It’s a thread about EV, it’d be a bit weird if it was just people who didn’t own them quoting Daily Mail headlines to each other.
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Considering the level of cost and tech in high end cars I am surprised more of the manufacturers don’t provide live diagnostics as part of the package. It’s simple tech that’s out there used by a lot of machine manufacturers to monitor and alert operators of issues before catastrophic failures occur. It could easily take out the huge potential of mis diagnosed faults that are normally cured by parts dartists at the customers expense.
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Exactly this.
Its all about getting you, the customer to part with as much money as possible, in order to keep the taxes coming in, in order to keep giving money to the ever increasing band of people that do not work, and who will never be working again, due to ever increasing tech killing any chance of meaningful employment.
Compared to this, the environment is of no consequence
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I (and I'm sure you do also...) quite often fix things before checking if theyre allowed to be fixed or not
Sometimes theyre even completely impossible to repair, but its a good job I read that after fixing them.
In reality what they probably mean is the deck thickness is thin to start with, but they dont want to spend any money seeing if the head is still good enough after its been machined, because thats a SEP for them, why spend money testing it. And should you do it, they dont want to own responsibility if it causes issues, so if they say "cannot" rather than not investigated or tested, and this way they absolve themselves of any responsibility afterwards even if its not actually related to casting thickness. Then everyone in the supply chain hides behind these weasel words because there's more profit to be had selling complete heads than refurbishing a perfectly reuseable part.
I wish cars came with a repairability and access index, done by independant non profit organizations that take a sample car apart and perform common tasks on it, and weight the score with how many specialist tools and equipment it requires. If parts can be refurbed by small specialist engineering shops etc.
Then we could all encourage our family etc who we get saddled with fixing weird overcomplex proprietary junk away from the most autoenshittified products. Or we'll end up with 1000 quid headlight bulbs in every car eventually.
Yes, but no... Please dont give them another excuse to fleece people for a yearly subscription, squirt off the diagnosis data in a encrypted form that only dealers can access (I mean, we cant even be trusted with engine water temperature gauges which actually read the actual temperature sensed, rather than a lower value the ecu tells them to display), then turn the service off in a few years when they deem the car is obsolete, at which point it becomes impossible to maintain or repair certain subsystems.
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Its all called progress, doesnt mean it’s better.
My daughter is waiting for her new EV…she works for a Mini, BMW dealer…the BMW staff scheme is pants according to her, but the Mini one is so cheap its a no brainer on salary sacrifice, even if you cant charge at home, its still cheap.
She takes after me tight!
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Agreed, it needs something like the insurance industry has at Thatcham to investigate damage repairability.I (and I'm sure you do also...) quite often fix things before checking if theyre allowed to be fixed or not
Sometimes theyre even completely impossible to repair, but its a good job I read that after fixing them.
In reality what they probably mean is the deck thickness is thin to start with, but they dont want to spend any money seeing if the head is still good enough after its been machined, because thats a SEP for them, why spend money testing it. And should you do it, they dont want to own responsibility if it causes issues, so if they say "cannot" rather than not investigated or tested, and this way they absolve themselves of any responsibility afterwards even if its not actually related to casting thickness. Then everyone in the supply chain hides behind these weasel words because there's more profit to be had selling complete heads than refurbishing a perfectly reuseable part.
I wish cars came with a repairability and access index, done by independant non profit organizations that take a sample car apart and perform common tasks on it, and weight the score with how many specialist tools and equipment it requires. If parts can be refurbed by small specialist engineering shops etc.
Then we could all encourage our family etc who we get saddled with fixing weird overcomplex proprietary junk away from the most autoenshittified products. Or we'll end up with 1000 quid headlight bulbs in every car eventually.
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I believe that is being looked now. Particularly relevant to Chinese EV's.
Predictively I can't find the article I read.
It's one of those areas where its a govts Job to dictate to the car industry - nit for it to self-regulate IMO.
It should be required that full parts availability (not restricted) is a requirement for a minimum period of say 15 years after end of production of that model (& at sensible pricing too).
Of course the industry lobby & "incentives power" leverage of the makers over the punter.... is what truly drives legislation.
(Stuff like coding brakes and batteries etc, the Maker effectively holding ransom over a vehicle YOU bought & own ....is something no decent gift should ever permit. Electronics are being misused to disadvantage a customer on the feeble excuse of protecting intellectual property - when really it's protecting the maker from Free Trade forces, while denying freedom of choice to the purchaser).
It should be required that full parts availability (not restricted) is a requirement for a minimum period of say 15 years after end of production of that model (& at sensible pricing too).
Of course the industry lobby & "incentives power" leverage of the makers over the punter.... is what truly drives legislation.
(Stuff like coding brakes and batteries etc, the Maker effectively holding ransom over a vehicle YOU bought & own ....is something no decent gift should ever permit. Electronics are being misused to disadvantage a customer on the feeble excuse of protecting intellectual property - when really it's protecting the maker from Free Trade forces, while denying freedom of choice to the purchaser).
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No doubt late to the thread.
John Deere in America are being sued by farmers for restricting access to software. John Deere have even sued farmers for repairing their own machines.
John Deere in America are being sued by farmers for restricting access to software. John Deere have even sued farmers for repairing their own machines.
Deere Must Face FTC Right-to-Repair Lawsuit, Judge Rules - Farm Policy News
Agriculture equipment giant Deere must face a lawsuit by the U.S. Federal Trade Commission accusing the company of forcing farmers to use its authorized dealer network and driving up their costs for parts and repairs, a U.S. judge has ruled.
farmpolicynews.illinois.edu
Yeah, was aware of that in the States.No doubt late to the thread.
John Deere in America are being sued by farmers for restricting access to software. John Deere have even sued farmers for repairing their own machines.
Deere Must Face FTC Right-to-Repair Lawsuit, Judge Rules - Farm Policy News
Agriculture equipment giant Deere must face a lawsuit by the U.S. Federal Trade Commission accusing the company of forcing farmers to use its authorized dealer network and driving up their costs for parts and repairs, a U.S. judge has ruled.farmpolicynews.illinois.edu
Same restrictions apply here - but we don't have the same legal mechanisms to fight the big boys
You do realise that as part of the later Euro emissions standards, vehicle manufacturers already have to do that?
IIRC car manufacturers have to guarantee parts supply for 10 years after the last vehicle is produced, with Truck/Bus even longer.
They also have to provide technical data, although they can charge a reasonable fee for access.
Diagnostics is also why John Deere isn't being sued in Europe, as alternatives to OE diagnostic equipment exists, and they also have to sell OE diagnostic kit to whoever wants to buy it.
