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Yes but I would expect no less from Wales
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When I worked at a Daf truck dealer, the maker paid for repair time, and not diagnostic time, so some obscure wiring fault that took hours to find but only minutes to fix! I think this is why people, started to say loom was knackered so the dealer actually got sensible money from the truck maker.
I'd wager it's more simple than today's simple cars and from experience, yes it's dead easy to work on. Underneath the sales chatter in the wiki text it's a very simple diesel (mine).I know nothing about BMW's but would that be the E61 with,
The E60 generation introduced various new electronic features, including the iDrive infotainment system, head-up display, active cruise control, active steering, adaptive headlights, night vision, lane departure warning and voice control. The E60 was the first 5 Series to be available with a turbocharged petrol engine, a 6-speed automatic transmission and regenerative braking. (Thankyou wikipedia)
All of which sounds dead easy to fix when it goes wrong.
If you want to ditch a load of that go back a model to the e39 (built up to 2003). It has fewer of the emissions bits on it you mentioned though.
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And who could blame them...
Whats ADAS?
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All Dat Atrocious System.
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Advanced Driver Assistance Systems (ADAS) are intelligent, sensor-based technologies (cameras, radar, lidar) in vehicles designed to increase safety and comfort by alerting drivers to hazards or automatically controlling the car. Key features include automatic emergency braking, lane-keeping assist, and parking assistance. They are crucial for reducing human-error accidents.
That is the start of the "robot in waiting" - self drive cars....
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Yes but I would expect no less from Wales
They’re all for sale in England, I’m not sure anyone’s told you guys you can recharge them yet?
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And on top of that....
Further accreditation for the repair of ADAS equipped vehicles
Change a suspension component? ADAS calibration required.
Change a windscreen? ADAS calibration required.
Collision repairs? ADAS calibration required.
'Had the tracking done'?
etc. etc.
So you 'know what you're doing' and all that modern stuff doesn't really need recalibration - fine, wait until the vehicle owner asks you for the calibration pre-check sheet and calibration certificate 'because the insurer wants it'...
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Free life time charging in England, I guess they kept that a secret from you down there?
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daleyd
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Yeah but only via the “Trevor Bayliss” method…
Our 2016 golf has basic adas and we got a new screen fitted locally through the insurance and there was no mention if adas.
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Yeah but only via the “Trevor Bayliss” method…
Is he the wind-up radio chap who went skint...?
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Yeah, that’s the fella
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Yeah, that’s the fella
Trevor Baylis - Wikipedia
I just had a read. invented the wind up radio to spread info about aids in africa - found it interesting...
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He was all over the news back in the 90’s, but then kind of disappeared as quick as he appeared - always seemed a kind of typical “bloke in a shed” inventor and hit upon a great idea with a good storyTrevor Baylis - Wikipedia
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I just had a read. invented the wind up radio to spread info about aids in africa - found it interesting...
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ADAS is ADAS, there are many levels of it pre '24 EU regs. maybe the windscreen fitters carried out the calibration & submitted to the ins. co.? Hard to know how as none of them have wheel alignment equipment which is step two in the process...
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But due to the high cost of spares a couple of broken headlights will write the car off
Bought a "Cat D" write off years ago, broken headlight and front bumper had written it off. Nice car that was too.
Anyhow, I was seriously considering buying a Nissan Leaf second hand (less than £4k) as I could get it charged for free but this thread has put the brakes on that idea.
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Don't know if it has been mentioned yet but another factor is that most independant garages in the aftermarket (fleet garages aside) won't pay for any kind of training, let alone electric training.
Dealers are really the only place that will work on EVs beyond the basics. Their horrendous waiting times are not exclusive to EVs, we have customers paying us to repair vehicles under warranty because they can't afford to wait 2-3 months.
The additional cost of the extra equipment like insulation testers, EV diagnostics, HV mats/etc is another factor. Many garages are reluctant to spend much on equipment at all.
Add to that a lack of interest by the mechanics. I've got no interest in electric cars. Don't care about them, don't want to learn about them, don't want to work on them.
Most of my work is on engines and drivetrains, that's what interests me. I've had this discussion with other mechs and most feel the same.
There are loads of Cat N (The new Cat D) electric cars really cheap. Many with very minor damage, seems insurance companies write them off very easily.
I briefly considered buying an electric Corsa for my 90 mile/day commute, but i can buy a lot of petrol/diesel for the cost of even the cheapest electric car.
Dealers are really the only place that will work on EVs beyond the basics. Their horrendous waiting times are not exclusive to EVs, we have customers paying us to repair vehicles under warranty because they can't afford to wait 2-3 months.
The additional cost of the extra equipment like insulation testers, EV diagnostics, HV mats/etc is another factor. Many garages are reluctant to spend much on equipment at all.
Add to that a lack of interest by the mechanics. I've got no interest in electric cars. Don't care about them, don't want to learn about them, don't want to work on them.
Most of my work is on engines and drivetrains, that's what interests me. I've had this discussion with other mechs and most feel the same.
There are loads of Cat N (The new Cat D) electric cars really cheap. Many with very minor damage, seems insurance companies write them off very easily.
I briefly considered buying an electric Corsa for my 90 mile/day commute, but i can buy a lot of petrol/diesel for the cost of even the cheapest electric car.
