Testing old diesel engine

[anto]

View attachment 369311the thing with the electric spade end is an oil pressure switch on the oil cooler the rusty part on the right side end is where the four pipes leave the pump
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Yes above the four pipes leaving the pump should be a solenoid

 

[anto]

Similar pump with different bits but the pump head end is the same and solenoid should be in the same place;

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[Bryan Williams]

Er, yes..

Does this engine take a starter motor? A lot of these fwd engines need the gearbox in place to bolt the starter up.

Bob

 

[James1979]

Er, yes..

Well that’s you told @8ob!!

I’d have thought the same to be fair. A lot need the bell housing to get the motor on.

 

[8ob]

Well that’s you told @8ob!!

I’d have thought the same to be fair. A lot need the bell housing to get the motor on.

I didn't think it was that daft a question most of the fwd stuff has the starter bolted to the gearbox. He can wrap a rope around the front pulley and pull start it for all I care

Dont know how old Bryans engine is but this is the back end of a vw tdi block, doesnt appear to be anywhere for a starter on that so assume its attached to the gearbox

 

[nickk]

Sit the engine on a old tyre .
Otherwise it will jump about .

And deep enough so the sumps off the ground.

 

[T5 TDI]

I'd have that cover off and check/change the cam belt before turning it over. Could be rotten.

 

[Tinbasherdan]

I didn't think it was that daft a question most of the fwd stuff has the starter bolted to the gearbox. He can wrap a rope around the front pulley and pull start it for all I care

Dont know how old Bryans engine is but this is the back end of a vw tdi block, doesnt appear to be anywhere for a starter on that so assume its attached to the gearbox

I had a video somewhere of someone pull starting an aero engine, went surprisingly well, although the one time it grabs the cord might lead to fun

 

[James1979]

I had a video somewhere of someone pull starting an aero engine, went surprisingly well, although the one time it grabs the cord might lead to fun

There was a thing during the war about folk starting them with the prop but then getting minced by falling into said prop or was that an urban myth?

 

[armalites]

Some people may hate me for this,
But would give a little (and I mean little) sprinkles of brake cleaner in the inlet to fire.

Sometimes it's the only way, I've had stuff where you could crank it all day and it wouldn't go but once it had fired and run a bit no issues after that and would start every time.

 

[Robotstar5]

I had a video somewhere of someone pull starting an aero engine, went surprisingly well, although the one time it grabs the cord might lead to fun

I saw a big stationary engine rope started by a few blokes, skip to 3:22

 

[Tinbasherdan]

There was a thing during the war about folk starting them with the prop but then getting minced by falling into said prop or was that an urban myth?

The hurricane had a hand starter gear behind the prop. Rotation was over the top towards the prop. When it fire the clutch disconnected and the bar you were shoving on suddenly went very loose…… believe the solution was to have someone behind you holding your belt so you didn’t go over the top

 

[My Old Landy]

There was a thing during the war about folk starting them with the prop but then getting minced by falling into said prop or was that an urban myth?

That's how Biggles used to start the Sopwith Camel you shout contact they spin the prop then it's chocks away and tally ho old chap.....

 

[qwakers]

other way round, the turn the prop to 'suck in' with the ignition off, then turn the prop to (i think correct me if im wrong) top dead center, stand back shout contact and the igniton is turned on, the magneto fires and off you go....

i might be wrong, but thats how it was explained to me...

 

[Bryan Williams]

I didn't think it was that daft a question most of the fwd stuff has the starter bolted to the gearbox. He can wrap a rope around the front pulley and pull start it for all I care

Dont know how old Bryans engine is but this is the back end of a vw tdi block, doesnt appear to be anywhere for a starter on that so assume its attached to the gearbox

Sorry Bob, the rolling eyes

I didn't think it was that daft a question most of the fwd stuff has the starter bolted to the gearbox. He can wrap a rope around the front pulley and pull start it for all I care

Dont know how old Bryans engine is but this is the back end of a vw tdi block, doesnt appear to be anywhere for a starter on that so assume its attached to the gearbox

Sorry Bob, the emoji was aimed at myself got so carried away with the idea that I forgot the obvious.. You are right..

 

[Bornfree]

other way round, the turn the prop to 'suck in' with the ignition off, then turn the prop to (i think correct me if im wrong) top dead center, stand back shout contact and the igniton is turned on, the magneto fires and off you go....

i might be wrong, but thats how it was explained to me...

A few years ago there was talk of one of the car manufacturers designing a petrol engine without a starter. Apparently the ECU knew the position of each piston and would inject fuel and ignite it . I guess they never perfected it.

 

[Tinbasherdan]

other way round, the turn the prop to 'suck in' with the ignition off, then turn the prop to (i think correct me if im wrong) top dead center, stand back shout contact and the igniton is turned on, the magneto fires and off you go....

i might be wrong, but thats how it was explained to me...

Prime the engine with X amount of turns of the prop, mags off. Rock it over tdc, mags on- contact! Then give it a good swing and move back in one smooth movement

 

[Cobbler]

A few years ago there was talk of one of the car manufacturers designing a petrol engine without a starter. Apparently the ECU knew the position of each piston and would inject fuel and ignite it . I guess they never perfected it.

I was told that the old straight 8 Bentleys you could start by moving across the advance & retard lever, there would always be one cylinder near enough to TDC for the points to open & close & fire the cylinder.

 

[Tinbasherdan]

I was told that the old straight 8 Bentleys you could start by moving across the advance & retard lever, there would always be one cylinder near enough to TDC for the points to open & close & fire the cylinder.

We managed it once with a merlin, more by luck than anything else. It’s one of the reasons the mags are on a cutout- don’t want Joe public wandering in and flicking the mags on!

 

[Bryan Williams]

Wanted to see if it was seized with sitting for so long.. Got a socket on it today and it moved easily for about an inch then became stiff,I turned it on the cambolt as I had nothing to fit the crank sprocket bolt. As I wasn't on the crank I didn't want to put any real pressure on the cam but there was easy movement till it stopped.
. Is it just coming up to tdc?
Cheers.