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That's a nice looking beast. Looks like it actually gets quite a lot of use too? On a slight tangent, when you're rotating the jaws on these, how much resistance is there generally? Does the cylinder rotate with just slight effort from one hand, or is there a notable resistance to rotation, as in not needing to really lean on it yet somewhat stiff to rotate?
Same here. Sod the vice and get yourself sorted.
Look after yourself matey
Same here. Sod the vice and get yourself sorted.
Mine has had a lot of use in the past, it got sidelined for a while by a Record 23, but it's now mounted on my fab bench and getting some use again. When I first got mine from the scrappers the drum was siezed solid, it took some screwdrivers and some oil to get it moving. Since I stripped it and refurbed it if the clamp bolt is loose you can spin it with one finger, but you don't need to tighten it up much to clamp it solid.
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That's what this one is like. Definitely needs a firm hand to rotate, but movement seems smooth. Did check the cylinders for burrs and nicks before assembling too, so nowt that I noted on that front. You know what it's like though, when a thought enters your head as to whether something's right or not.
The 23 is quite a beefy vice, if I'm thinking of the correct one. About 6" across the jaws?
Did you smooth your cylinder down any with wet&dry, emery or the like? Mine's like Pete's in that it's got some good resistance to movement.
One day I will stop letting these inconsequential little niggles/questions/concerns linger in my mind.
Yep, the 23 is a 6" with quick release, £3 from the tip I cleaned the Swinden up with a cup brush in the angle grinder, otherwise no real polishing or smoothing. It's a pretty close fit, so I would expect some variance due to manufacturing tolerances.
I cleaned the Swinden up with a cup brush in the angle grinder, otherwise no real polishing or smoothing. It's a pretty close fit, so I would expect some variance due to manufacturing tolerances.
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Yep, the 23 is a 6" with quick release, £3 from the tip
If it wasn't for the fact you have Rugby listed as your location, I'd swear you were a Northerner.
You got an absolute steal at that price. Jammy git. Sounds the likely reason. Plus, not having it bolted down yet doesn't help. Should be easier to rotate it when I'm not trying to hold the vice body still too.
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This is what I ended up doing to the leadscrew.
One hour or so with a bastard cut file followed by a finishing file to smooth it out. As it is now, there's no bar in the ball and I can close the jaws up by hand just by rotating the ball end, so it's looking okay. A slight bit of resistance can be felt just as it's at the point of closing fully, but not enough to make it hard to close.
Made a thrust washer for the screw too, whilst I have it apart. Cut that from a piece of copper sheet, punched a hole out and then finished it off by file. The sheet it came from is just a piece of 22mm copper pipe annealed and cut open. Plumbing gear is literally worth it's weight in gold.
That might end up being either a blessing or a curse. Easy enough to remove if it ain't useful though.
One hour or so with a bastard cut file followed by a finishing file to smooth it out. As it is now, there's no bar in the ball and I can close the jaws up by hand just by rotating the ball end, so it's looking okay. A slight bit of resistance can be felt just as it's at the point of closing fully, but not enough to make it hard to close.
Made a thrust washer for the screw too, whilst I have it apart. Cut that from a piece of copper sheet, punched a hole out and then finished it off by file. The sheet it came from is just a piece of 22mm copper pipe annealed and cut open. Plumbing gear is literally worth it's weight in gold.
That might end up being either a blessing or a curse. Easy enough to remove if it ain't useful though.
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They do have a fair bit of free play between that front plate and the collar, don't they. This one won't take it all out, but it'll knock a portion off. Could always double up on the washers, which should get it fairly close to perfect. If I'd had any round stock of suitable proportions to turn something up on the lathe, that would have been the best way.
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Did wonder whether that might be an issue, especially with it being annealed at the moment. Planned on lightly working it a few times with plenty of lubrication to let it work harden somewhat before using it properly, and then see how it fares from there.
Fortunately with these, once that front plate is taken off, the screw just winds out if I need to take it off. Another of the blessing/curse things. They're simple to remove due to not being sprung and pinned like a standard vice, but conversely that's why it has some free play on the wind in/out.
Fortunately with these, once that front plate is taken off, the screw just winds out if I need to take it off. Another of the blessing/curse things. They're simple to remove due to not being sprung and pinned like a standard vice, but conversely that's why it has some free play on the wind in/out.
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Leadscrew and retainer plate refitted. Cleaned up the original screws. They came up better than I expected, judging by the condition they were in originally. All had been chewed with the screwdriver, to some degree, but a bit of fettling with the files and then a quick brush over with an oily, slightly grubby brass brush to blend the surface got them looking half decent.
With that copper washer on there, there's only about a quarter turn now of slack, so not too much.
Also had a little complete and utter deviation from original. Two guesses what this is.
The open slit was irking me. It's just begging for crap to get in there IMHO, so decided to make that leather shim to keep crap out. It also has the added benefit of acting as an oil wick. Plus, knowing how hard this leather is to compress, from experience, it should also act as a precautionary measure to prevent the nut being overly tightened. With the shim fitted:
With that copper washer on there, there's only about a quarter turn now of slack, so not too much.
Also had a little complete and utter deviation from original. Two guesses what this is.
The open slit was irking me. It's just begging for crap to get in there IMHO, so decided to make that leather shim to keep crap out. It also has the added benefit of acting as an oil wick. Plus, knowing how hard this leather is to compress, from experience, it should also act as a precautionary measure to prevent the nut being overly tightened. With the shim fitted:
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This thread was started to NOT **** me off and now look ....6" with quick release, £3 from the tip
......, I have started again .........., that grinning green smilie is going to have an uncomfortable toilet session
in a few days when his teeth reappear!!!
