smart meter

[Kayos]

2000 x 2000 = 4mil

I dunno if you're just taking the ****

2000 gas meters plus 2000 electric meters is still 4000 meters in total

 

[normspanners]

coarse I am (is that a little like Will I am)--------2000 installs at 2000 each install ------ is 4 mil meters,----- your complicating it, by bringing gas meters into the equation !!

 

[wookie]

Sorry to try and bring this thread back on track but I have a question....

Do these new "smart" meters run backwards when your solar panels produce more than what you consume ?

The reason I ask is I was interested in getting a few panels and a grid-tie inverter but my current electric meter will display an error if electricity tries to flow though it backwards and then apparently the elecy company will start asking awkward questions thinking your trying to fiddle it.

I'm not interested in feed-in tariffs because I haven't got the money for that kind of install, I just fancied a few panels fitted by myself and a plug-in inverter, dead simple setup that covers my base load and helps to reduced my bill.

 

[rtbcomp]

Don't think so - friend of mine has PV panels with a conventional meter and he was told to inform the supply people if his meter went backwards so they could fit a meter that doesn't.

 

[Shox Dr]

Sorry to try and bring this thread back on track but I have a question....

Do these new "smart" meters run backwards when your solar panels produce more than what you consume ?

The reason I ask is I was interested in getting a few panels and a grid-tie inverter but my current electric meter will display an error if electricity tries to flow though it backwards and then apparently the elecy company will start asking awkward questions thinking your trying to fiddle it.

I'm not interested in feed-in tariffs because I haven't got the money for that kind of install, I just fancied a few panels fitted by myself and a plug-in inverter, dead simple setup that covers my base load and helps to reduced my bill.

They dont like it as an engineer may be working on that phase down the road, they've turned thier bit off but don't know uou are firing 240v down the other way

 

[WorkshopChris]

The reason I ask is I was interested in getting a few panels and a grid-tie inverter but my current electric meter will display an error if electricity tries to flow though it backwards and then apparently the elecy company will start asking awkward questions thinking your trying to fiddle it.

I'm not interested in feed-in tariffs because I haven't got the money for that kind of install, I just fancied a few panels fitted by myself and a plug-in inverter, dead simple setup that covers my base load and helps to reduced my bill.

You probably need a old mechanical meter for that, be careful what you say to a electric supplier they very sensitive about what feeds back into the grid as some of the cheap plug in units on the market will still feed when the supply is disconnected. so if they have to isolate a cable to work on its still live via the back feed from the inverter still generating power.

 

[brightspark]

You probably need a old mechanical meter for that, be careful what you say to a electric supplier they very sensitive about what feeds back into the grid as some of the cheap plug in units on the market will still feed when the supply is disconnected. so if they have to isolate a cable to work on its still live via the back feed from the inverter still generating power.

most times if they can they short the cores to earth so no current can back feed but not much use if they disconnect it to couple up

 

[wookie]

Don't think so - friend of mine has PV panels with a conventional meter and he was told to inform the supply people if his meter went backwards so they could fit a meter that doesn't.

Miserable sods, it annoys me that those with money can afford to get approved solar installed and then get paid the feed-in tariff that the rest of us are paying for, while all I want to do is reduce my bill a bit but I'm effectively blocked from using a more affordable plug-in setup because my meter will assume I'm trying to fiddle it and make problems for me with my supplier.

A plug-in grid-tied solar setup that didn't cost the earth that the average DIYer could install themselves to me is a no-brainer. I would only ever install a system that powers it's self down if the mains is disconnected so there would be no chance of frying anyone working on the power lines.

 

[Spark plug]

most times if they can they short the cores to earth so no current can back feed but not much use if they disconnect it to couple up

I always get a nervous twitch when I have to isolate a HV supply and drop the earth short in

 

[WorkshopChris]

most times if they can they short the cores to earth so no current can back feed but not much use if they disconnect it to couple up

Unless its new cable off a reel or its on a machine or site i know very well i try to get into the habit of working as if everything is live you never know when it may save you.

 

[WorkshopChris]

A plug-in grid-tied solar setup that didn't cost the earth that the average DIYer could install themselves to me is a no-brainer. I would only ever install a system that powers it's self down if the mains is disconnected so there would be no chance of frying anyone working on the power lines.

That is just it they bang on about the environment but in reality it just about making money, there must be huge amounts of small scale generation that could be uses that at the moment is wasted as " its not economically viable" but every little helps. every kw you can make is a kw you do not have to buy from a supplier.

 

[500e]

Talking about this last night there could be 1000s of small scale systems that could provide 1\2kWh + especially water driven low cost long life very little impact on environment

 

[awemawson]

Before WW2 many small towns and villages had their own hydro electric systems giving local distribution on a relatively low scale.

One I'm aware of was the town of Dulverton on the edge of Exmoor where my inlaws used to live:

http://www.exmoorher.co.uk/hbsmr-we...Generating-Mill-West-of-Pixton-Park-Dulverton

I believe the the machinery was re-deployed for war work elsewhere but I'm pleased to see the site is now generating again:

http://www.renewablesfirst.co.uk/project-blog/dulverton-hydro-archimedes-screw/

 

[rtbcomp]

Barton Locks on the Manchester Ship Canal has a generating system.

 

[octo0072000]

the queen has one on one of her property's on the river

 

[brightspark]

was working omn a job today and the punters were having smart meters fitted .there only fitting them in houses when there's duel fuel gas and electric at the moment .certain arias cant get them as they work on a sim card on the mobile networks at Christmas there starting to fit key meters that can be topped up on your mobile phones instead of the corner shop

 

[gaz1]

http://nrt3.com/mps-warned-of-sabotage-threat-from-smart-meter-hackers/8224/

 

[the snooper]

http://nrt3.com/mps-warned-of-sabotage-threat-from-smart-meter-hackers/8224/

its obvious they will be hacked at some point from outside sources, people have hacked far more secure networks, if its run over a public network people will eventually access them and what stops them closing down the full country with the right software and algorithms

 

[the snooper]

imagine there would be damage to the generators if the huge loads instantly came off

 

[brightspark]

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=were+doomed+i+tell+ye&biw=1920&bih=964&tbm=isch&imgil=bMMgzr9sFKfmxM%3A%3BQpjPClJTw4cdRM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk%252Fp%252Fwe-re-all-doomed-doooooomed-i-tell-you%252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=bMMgzr9sFKfmxM%3A%2CQpjPClJTw4cdRM%2C_&usg=__Tdo190BME6M7KCSL8hDbYixQsdo=&ved=0ahUKEwjMgNWKtLDPAhXEDcAKHfTJCCQQyjcIPg&ei=PdnqV4zuKMSbgAb0k6OgAg#imgrc=bMMgzr9sFKfmxM: ffs I'm only getting a meter put in