Selfish Tw*ts

[Dapph2]

Well done you, hoping for a good outcome for the biker due to you taking charge of the scene, sounds like you did everything you could for the best outcome. It bugs me these days that bystanders are more interested in videoing an incident/accident with their phones for social media instead of helping.
One thing to consider about your account was the bike and debris should be left as the police may need it for evidence if it turns into a fatal accident.

I took that into consideration , the bike had to be moved for emergency crews access 30 yards further up the hill .
There was so much sharp stuff over a 30 yard circle tyres would be punctured and dangerous to knee down in . Plus it gave shocked people including the lady driver something to do as severe system shocks can be nearly as dangerous as the incident itself .

 

[Dapph2]

Top Chap Daphh
That sound like Swansea, uncaring idiots and people who will do anything to help. A funny old place.
The flask bit did make me snigger

Initially i couldn't work out what it was . .ruptured stomach juices ..... OMG ?

 

[jimbo84]

One of the last cpr courses I did: DRABCD
Danger
Response
Airway
Breathing
Cardiac
Deadly bleeding

I’ve done one recently and the guy used the DRABCD but used defibrillator for the last D, they also noted how first aid, and what they teach changes so regularly

In response to some of the other posts about people watching our trainer said if we ever need to do first aid in a public place we’ll have to do it with an audience.

 

[Dapph2]

Well done for assisting and also for getting it right, you probably helped save that guys life from the ignorant masses.

A few years back I did the training and qualified as a first aider and I think its immensely valuable to help and give you some confidence to step forward in similar circumstances if anyones considering similar. I have no medical training besides that course, but its all about trying to help keep someone alive and stable while the pro's arrive and not doing anything to make their situation worse.

I'd also add First and foremost if the casualty is in further imminent danger . if possible rescue them from it it , drag out by the collar of something on fire /smoking , out the fast lane or away from a big drop etc. . do this first and if possible do not risk yourself becoming a casualty too .

 

[Dapph2]

Exactly. @Dapph2 would this be worth a newspaper article? An information piece on what to do (and what not to do) if you come across an accident. It could also highlight the dire (initial) ambulance response.

I doubt it , newspaper circulation is dire these days with many so called papers being primarily a pamphlet of adverts you pay to see.

 

[Farside]

Wow...whats wrong with people these days

It's not new. Fifty years ago Londoners were condemmed in the Press for stepping over heart attack victims.
However, it was only a certain type of Londoner, as I found when I lived there, the place was largely full of decent types who wouldn't do that.
I think it's only in places where crowding is a factor, you will always run into the selfish sods, simply because there's more of a concentration of them.

 

[Bravheart]

@Dapph2 well done and congratulations on being the Knight in shining armour helping save a life rather than selfishly ducking down a side road instead of having too wait 30mins or so till the road is cleared
Strangely enough had something similar happen yesterday but not in a life threatening situation.
Youngish girl student appeared in the Yard covered in mud and asking if I knew anyone that would sort her bike she'd just fallen off. How she got in the yard Gates were shut. Anyhow said I'd take a look turns out a to be a motorbike and she had pushed it a few hundred yards along the road to near the gates. She was frightened to start it because it was making a funny noise. Turned out the handlebars were bent and the throttle cable was tight so was revving it's nuts off when started till we turned the steering to the right then it was OK.
Phoned my mechanic and we got the bar back into line a bit without cracking the tubing. Throttle housing needed fixing, starter button wires soldering and footrest straightened. By this time her X boyfriend arrived to put bike in the back of a Mini. She was obviously shaken up a bit but volunteered to try it along the road. Trial run OK so she set off home again about 40 miles with the x following on behind.
Biggest regret was not offering her a cup of tea and a seat to let her calm down a bit also not having any contact details to see if she got back safely. They did try and throw some notes our way but we wouldn't take any both of us having daughters of similar ages and only hope that if they are in a similar situation they will find someone to help them safely!

 

[fizzy]

I think it speaks volumes that a disabled older chap with a knackered spine and due to have shoulder surgery in October was the first to hobble across to help!
Like my African mate Peter who is in his 60s and only got one leg who got the severely disabled people he looks after out of a burning house. a few weeks ago! Then went back in for an oxygen cylinder. Then went back in again to get keys to move the cars away so they didn't make the fire even worse!
I choose my mates very carefully

 

[Morrisman]

The worrying problem I have is that if I am rendered unconscious in any sort of incident people would naturally lay me on my back, where I can’t breathe.
I have a DNR but it’s in my jacket pocket, with DNR written on the pocket, so there’s a chance I’d die from asphyxiation while I was actually not hurt.

 

[roofman]

It's not new. Fifty years ago Londoners were condemmed in the Press for stepping over heart attack victims.
However, it was only a certain type of Londoner, as I found when I lived there, the place was largely full of decent types who wouldn't do that.
I think it's only in places where crowding is a factor, you will always run into the selfish sods, simply because there's more of a concentration of them.

As much as i appreciate your reply and all your posts in general, you still have not convinced me the country was the same 50 years ago...I know this for a fact as i was 16 at the time

 

[roofman]

The worrying problem I have is that if I am rendered unconscious in any sort of incident people would naturally lay me on my back, where I can’t breathe.
I have a DNR but it’s in my jacket pocket, with DNR written on the pocket, so there’s a chance I’d die from asphyxiation while I was actually not hurt.

Do what my bike rider mate has done..he is a diabetic type1 and has this tatooed on his wrist before the paramedics or public start pumping drugs or even a cup of tea with loads of sugur.

 

[angellonewolf]

If I ever find myself in such a situation I hope someone like you would be around

i dout it son had a punture the other week (lets not go in to it how his spare wheel was at home ) i had to drive over he was there about 45 mins i did ask him if any one had stoped to help and that was a no

 

[Gareth J]

You did great. Don't worry about the ones that scarpered, if they would have been of any positive input, like you, or the off duty doctor, they would have prioritised the situation, not themselves, anyway.

 

[harveyp6]

you still have not convinced me the country was the same 50 years ago...I know this for a fact as i was 16 at the time

Oh dear, thanks for reminding me, so was I.........

 

[Robotstar5]

The worrying problem I have is that if I am rendered unconscious in any sort of incident people would naturally lay me on my back, where I can’t breathe.
I have a DNR but it’s in my jacket pocket, with DNR written on the pocket, so there’s a chance I’d die from asphyxiation while I was actually not hurt.

Hopefully not, from what I've seen on various TV programmes even folks with no first aid training will put an unconscious person into the recovery position which if done, should maintain an airway.

 

[Robotstar5]

For those interested it's worth googling "biker down" for a free 3 hour course on what to do if you come across a downed biker.

 

[frank horton]

good on you....

Having done an advanced industrial first aid course with St Johns....u did everything right.....
just make sure UR 100% safe....
U cant help anyone if u get hurt as well....Most people are just selfish A holes anyway....
I've been in similar situations, I just tell the idiots to xuck off and leave.....

My daughter has just started her advanced Paramedic course...I'm a very proud dad.....
She see's this carp everyday and much worse....
These people are worth their weight in gold at times like this....only the other day....
She'd done her 12 hour night shift and then got called out again, low staff levels and did another 4 hours.....
remember, she's on shift again in 12hrs minus the 4 worked hours... no wonder the burn out rate is so high...

While u were busy I bet ur leg stopped hurting...hahaha....
I'm waiting for a new knee......lol...

Further........
like mandatory swimming levels before leaving school....there should be first aid lessons....
I believe it's better for childeren to learn First Aid at school than stupid religious studies...
rant over....

 

[Robotstar5]

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Further........
like mandatory swimming levels before leaving school....there should be first aid lessons....
I believe it's better for children to learn First Aid at school than stupid religious studies...
rant over....

I was taught CPR as part of swimming lessons at secondary school and first aid when I was in the Scouts.

Which prompted me to dig out my old uniform

 

[Farside]

For those interested it's worth googling "biker down" for a free 3 hour course on what to do if you come across a downed biker.

Offer him a cup of tea and a sympathetic shoulder, and commiserate with him about buying a Chinese motorcycle.

 

[Farside]

I was taught CPR as part of swimming lessons at secondary school and first aid when I was in the Scouts.

Which prompted me to dig out my old uniform

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