Run 6010 whit a cheap inverter

  1. bwservices Member

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    a 6010 is more widely used in America
    a 6011 more so,its the farmers rod over there.nothing wrong with using a cel for almost everything if that's what you want.its takes a while to make them look pretty if you were brought up on 6013
    theres no harm in experimenting,but it shouldn't take you long to revert back to using the best rod for each job.
     
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  2. Sean Another 602 fan

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    Thats some size of car
     
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  3. Dutch Welder Member

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    6010 is quite the marmite rod, they have a certain use, but for most things outside that use (root weld in pipe welding) there are easier to run alternatives like a 6013.
    They are less demanding on the machine's OCV, so can be run on more machines and produce sound welds.

    I have 4 machines here (2 Chinese Tig units, one 320Amps, one 200 amps) a SAF Stick welder and a Rowac transformer based Mig unit, the only one that runs Lincoln Fleetweld (the only cellulose rod my LWS stocks) is the Rowac.
    But as a 6013 Supra rod is quite comparable in weld quality I use those, as all machines I have can run them.
     
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  4. Memmeddu

    Memmeddu Member

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    6013 is high hydrogen electrod ,6010 not
    I have to try smaller one i had no time in this days
     
  5. Dennis Aspö

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    7018 is the "farmers rod" of the nordic countries anyway based on my observation. It's what almost everyone uses. Think 6013 is making a comeback with all the cheap chinese welders on the market nowadays though.

    I only have 7018 rods myself, though I mostly use my TIG.
     
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  6. Sarto

    Sarto Small flower carts specialist

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    Sorry, but they are both high hydrogen.
    To be in the low hydrogen area you must look at properly dried or vacuum packed 7016 and 7018.
     
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  7. Memmeddu

    Memmeddu Member

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    6010 2,5mm 3/32 85 Ampere
    The welder welds
    I did also vertical Downhill but i have to learn how do properly
    Runs good but doing e motion
     
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  8. zeppelin builder

    zeppelin builder Member

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    4mmbohler foxcell downhill using miller xmt
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  9. Sarto

    Sarto Small flower carts specialist

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    @zeppelin builder
    The 2 beads are made at a "constant speed" or do you move the rod in a "up and down" way?
     
  10. zeppelin builder

    zeppelin builder Member

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    constant down quickly ,
    whip only used in in open root travelling upward .you can root uphill with a tighter set up by keeping a constant pressure on the rod and dragging it upward
     
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  11. zeppelin builder

    zeppelin builder Member

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    heres some 6010 welds

    18 inch pipe single pass cap down hill 4mm

    6 inch in 6g position 4mm

    3 inch pipe uphill root 2.5

    3 inch pipe downhill cap 3.25 20161122_164211.jpg 20160423_162534.jpg 20161221_093324.jpg 20161221_093401.jpg

    above 6 inch downhill root 3.25 20160423_162455.jpg

    lastly 10 inch pipe downhill root 4mm 20180711_064631.jpg
     
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  12. Rig Pig

    Rig Pig Member

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    Nice work, many years ago as an apprentice my weekend OT was machining pipe butts up for the apprentice welders to practice g6 on, I had a little play myself, the bit at the top is easy, the sides aren't too bad and all the metal falls out of the bottom bit leaving a slag filled gap! :ashamed:
     
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