Rock and Roll Bed Plans?

  1. auldtam Member

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    Has anyone built a rock and roll bed for a Campervan...I don't mean the old VW type made with plywood and rock and roll hinges.

    I would like to build a double seat frame that slides out to form a double bed at night.

    Any ideas, suggestions or links to a diagram appreciated.
     
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  4. auldtam Member

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    I'm not looking for RnR hinges like they use in the old VW's...

    What I meant was, has anyone built a full metal frame that slides out into a bed..Ive just been looking on the auction site and downloaded some pictures to give me an idea how they are constructed.

    Any further advice would be appreciated..
     
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  7. madkayaker

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    Sorry to be a pain but the proper beds have been tested for use as a seat for passenger use during travel yours won't so not sure if it will be legal to use for passengers? I've seen so real bad conversions claiming to be safe that arnt so it worth looking into that before you start
     
  8. auldtam Member

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    Yes I wouldnt use it for carrying passengers whilst in transit...just as seating and sleeping on site.

    I saw some on auction site that have seatbelts fitted but I wouldnt trust them.
     
  9. madkayaker

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    That's ok then as long as you have thought about it! The conversion that was in mine had a badly built side seat box and the seat belts were screwed with wood screws into the wood on the floor!
     
  10. auldtam Member

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    Thats crazy! I'm not sure if Campervan rear seats are checked at the MOT?

    I heard the MOT check changed last March to include towbars...about time too.
     
  11. madkayaker

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    The test involves a quick tug to see if it moves!
     
  12. stuvy

    stuvy Member

    they check for 5 seat belts if fitted IIRC
     
  13. agrimog Member

    if the vehicle is submitted for the mot test with the bed in the folded down,ie bed, position, it cant fail, cos theres nothing to be checked, also seatbelts are not required on rear facing seats, and to the best of my knowledge, there is only one approved manufacturer of fold out seats to beds with seat belts fitted, and these are only for vw t4 and t5 vans, its all to do with the floor mounting points and crash testing of the components
     
  14. auldtam Member

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    Picked up some 20x20x2mm hollow section today, then made a 6'x3' workbench out of heavy Dexion shelving and set up the welder for my first Mig Built Project.

    The old arc welder has gone to the back of the shed now.

    I'll start the build tomorrow, fingers crossed.
     
  15. auldtam Member

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    Made up all the frames today.... Hopefully I'll finish it off tomorrow.
     
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  17. auldtam Member

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    That's interesting...My van is a 2000 Renault Master (Disabled Access) and was registered as a Motor Caravan in Feb 2012 after I converted it and MOT'd as a 3 seater. It kinda falls in between the legislation dates.

    Not that I would have passengers in the rear seats, but technically I think I can. Not sure what the view of my insurance company would be though.

    I wonder what a Traffic Cops view would be if you were checked?

    IMO it looks like a bit of a minefield, probably safest NOT to carry passengers in the back. However, if a camper van hirer advertise there vans as 4 berth and not 4 seaters maybe that's how they get around it??
     
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    seats

    register on here should answer all your questions
    http://sbmcc.co.uk/forum/index.php?act=idx


    side facing seats do not need belts still as far as i know if it's 4 berth or six berth it can carry said amount of people

    so a family of six go on holiday are you going to take the motorhome for two or three people and the a car for the rest??
     
  19. madkayaker

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    there is lots and lots of vans out there that advertise as 4 or 6 birth that cant transport the same number of people due to lack of safe approved seating.

    there is also lots of van that quite frankly are dangerously overloaded. lad at work lives in a sprinter van 6 birth coach built job and its plated for 3500kg gross. empty weight is 2900kg and thats before 150L water, gas and the like (possible half tank of fuel?) and 6 people. if he had 6 mates in he would be over loaded!
     
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